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Ted Kennedy on a Watch List?
Topic Started: Aug 20 2004, 03:16 PM (207 Views)
ImpulseEngine
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I'm sure the anti-Ted Kennedy faction here will find this funny, but I find it again indicative of the Bush administration incompetence. One also has to wonder if it was deliberate.

http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/3666377/detail.html
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Dandandat
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Kennedy Thursday told a hearing of the Senate Judicary Committee that when he tried to board a flight from Washington to Boston a few months ago, a ticket agent said he couldn't sell Kennedy a ticket -- and he couldn't tell him why not. A supervisor intervened, and Kennedy got on the flight, but he said the same thing happened when he tried to return to Washington.


This is what I find disturbing about this story. Regardless of how and why his name was on the watch list, how can some supervisor intervene and get him on the plain?
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Aug 20 2004, 02:16 PM
I'm sure the anti-Ted Kennedy faction here will find this funny, but I find it again indicative of the Bush administration incompetence.  One also has to wonder if it was deliberate.

http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/3666377/detail.html

Oh c'mon... what next, a secret meeting between President Bush and Tom Ridge, detailing who to screw with?

Mistakes are the nature of ANY bureaucracy. Still, I'd rather just keep Senator Kennedy our from behind the wheel...

(ba-DUM-bum!)
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Dwayne
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Aug 20 2004, 03:16 PM
I find it again indicative of the Bush administration incompetence.

I find your comments on this issue indicative of you and your ilks' invectiveness.
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Hoss
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I remember reading a number of conservative activists complaining that they were audited every single year of the Clinton Administration. Not really random audits.

I don't remember where, and I ain't gonna go chase it down, so please don't believe me if you don't want to. That is all.
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24thcenstfan
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Well, I am not anti-Ted Kennedy, but I think it is a little funny. :lol: :angel: Without proof though (someone coming forward saying he was deliberately put on the list), I am going to go with it was a computer glitch (mistake of sorts ;) ).

More than likely though, someone at DHS is playing games (my opinion of course). I don’t think a directive was given from Ridge or Bush, but it definitely looks more than coincidental (due to the number of times it happened and the amount of time it took to get Kennedy off the “watch” list).
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Dwayne
Aug 20 2004, 04:28 PM
ImpulseEngine
Aug 20 2004, 03:16 PM
I find it again indicative of the Bush administration incompetence.

I find your comments on this issue indicative of you and your ilks' invectiveness.

"Incompetence" is now considered abusive language?????

Getting a bit thin skinned these days aren't we.

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Minuet
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Aug 20 2004, 04:41 PM
I remember reading a number of conservative activists complaining that they were audited every single year of the Clinton Administration.  Not really random audits.

I don't remember where, and I ain't gonna go chase it down, so please don't believe me if you don't want to.  That is all.

Wouldn't suprise me that you are telling the truth.

As an outsider looking in I find the vindictiveness on the parts of both the left and the right to be incomprehensible. :shrug:
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cptjeff
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Wouldn't be suprised either. But kennidy on the watch list is either the bush adminatration or somone at the DHS playing a joke. not one in particular good taste, but a joke.

Okay, it was mildly funny.

But the thing is, the two partys do as mutch as they can to damage eiach other. Adits on Coservitive activists? perfectly reasonable. As long as they wer'nt doing anything illigal they shouldn't have to worry. but if they were doing things like bombing abortion clinics... some groups do things like that.
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doctortobe
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Jeff, there have been dozens of people who have accidently been put on the list. It is new and it is a beaurocracy, mistakes are inevitable. If this were really some right wing conspiricy, then don't you think that people like Daschle or even Kerry would have been affected? Why not some other top Democrat?

Or could it be that a random error affected a high ranking person and people are jumping on conspiracy theories? If people truely think that Bush would do something so stupid (how easy would it be to track it back to him?), then they must be losing their grip on reality.

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Adits on Coservitive activists? perfectly reasonable.


I take it you have never been audited.

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As long as they wer'nt doing anything illigal they shouldn't have to worry.


If Clinton did it intentionally, then it probably was illegal on his part.

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but if they were doing things like bombing abortion clinics... some groups do things like that.


Some groups mail razor blades that were dipped in poison to people they view as enemies of the environment. What is your point?
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Dwayne
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Aug 21 2004, 12:35 AM
Jeff, there have been dozens of people who have accidently been put on the list. It is new and it is a beaurocracy, mistakes are inevitable. If this were really some right wing conspiricy, then don't you think that people like Daschle or even Kerry would have been affected? Why not some other top Democrat?

If it were Mr. Bush doing it, TSA would be strip searching Michael Moore every time his fat butt got within spitting distance of an airport.
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doctortobe
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That could never happen! :realmad: Moore would never demean himself so much as to fly on a mere commercial airliner! He would take his private plane instead. :lol:

Besides, wouldn't Moore get charged for two seats under airline policy?
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Why is this an issue ?

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Besides, wouldn't Moore get charged for two seats under airline policy?

Surely if he is that big - he would simply be advised to buy a business class or 1st class ticket rather than an economy ticket ? I have seen some very big men and women crammed into economy seats , good thing the middle armrests can be swung up out of the way - and extension belts are used to buckle in. Not much fun for the people who have to sit next to them.
None-the-less they pay for only one ticket and one seat.

Was that an Fatism Jibe on the part of Doc ? Shame on you :spank: - especially since you are studying to be come a doctor and you of all people should know better.

I am not the slightest bit surprized by Dwayne's comments on the matter - they are about his level.
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doctortobe
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That's a negative somerland. Airline policy now frequently calls for overweight people to buy two tickets. Yet strangly they don't require infants to have a seat. I guess they would consider them to be safe enough in the event of a crash sitting in an adult's arms.

And don't even try to start any of that fatism tripe with me.
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cptjeff
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the namekenidy shouldn't even come close to any other name on the list, so it was probably a joke played by a low level member of the TSA. not too funny, but I don't think any high level adminatration officals had anything to do with it.

And how did this conversation turn to airline policy?
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