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| Retiring Republican Congressman Blasts Iraq War | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 19 2004, 08:57 AM (669 Views) | |
| Dandandat | Aug 19 2004, 10:01 AM Post #16 |
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How did you come to that conclusion? Just because a man has an opinion other then yours does not mean he is forgetting 9/11. He may simple think the best way to vindicate 9/11 and prevent the next 9/11 is not being accomplished by the war in Iraqi. |
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| gvok | Aug 19 2004, 10:08 AM Post #17 |
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There are some people on this board who think that if you disagree with Bush and the invasion of Iraq that you must be a "leftist", uninformed, or Anti-American. I just like to give examples of people who do question the invasion and clearly do not fit into any of these categories. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Aug 19 2004, 10:27 AM Post #18 |
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Hmm...seems I struck a nerve with you AB. Otherwise, you wouldn't be trying to hit this man "below the belt" as it were. As far as me changing my Sig, I thought about adding, "REMEMBER 9/11!" (with attached message from me off course), but I have a feeling I would be accused of mocking 9/11 instead of the intended audience. So I think I will pass. |
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| Dwayne | Aug 19 2004, 10:30 AM Post #19 |
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On the contrary ... If you simply disagree with Mr. Bush and in entering Iraq, then you simply disagree. But if you claim Mr. Bush went into Iraq and Afghanistan to enrich his corporate buddies, and claim Mr. Bush wants to keep the poor poor and the rich rich, I'll call you Leftist. And if you claim Mr. Bush said Iraq was an imminent threat, as well as claim America sold Iraq WMD's while simultaniously claiming we've found no WMD's, I'll call you uniformed. And if you claim Mr. Bush is a NAZI and that America is imperialistic, I'll call you anti-American. You can cite this retiring congress-critter and I can cite Zell Miller, and I think I can show you more examples of democrats crossing party lines to support Mr. Bush on this matter than you can show republicans that support John Kerry on this matter. |
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| ds9074 | Aug 19 2004, 10:54 AM Post #20 |
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I'm sure there are people of all sides who supported/disagreed with the actions taken in Iraq. It has suprised me how it has been protrayed as a clean split between the two parties. Here we had opposition from all parties to the war, we had traditional Conservatives marching with Socialist Workers against the war, and we had support from all sides as well. It wasnt just a simple left/right issue.
I think that is a brilliantly fair statement. Too often if you disagree with a policy of the current US administration you are told you are living in a "pre-9/11 world". Thats not true and we should remember that those attacks didnt mean democracy and the right to hold different opinions was suspended. Al-Qaeda didnt succeed in that respect. |
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| Dwayne | Aug 19 2004, 10:57 AM Post #21 |
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Yes, you're right, it's not a simple left-right issue. |
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| Minuet | Aug 19 2004, 11:46 AM Post #22 |
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Ok, maybe my choice of words (tear down) wasn't perfect. However, offering a "possible choice" in that manner is a weak argument IMO. If you do not have any evidence to back up that type of claim it should not be offered as a "possible choice". It just looks, in the words that some here like to use, like a "pathetic" grasp at an explanation. |
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| Minuet | Aug 19 2004, 11:52 AM Post #23 |
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I don't agree with this statement. There are many fair minded people on this board. Please don't try to flame with a comment like this. |
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| gvok | Aug 19 2004, 12:02 PM Post #24 |
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Minuet, I did say "one of the most fair" minded. That means there are others here as well, no? How was that a flame? |
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| Dandandat | Aug 19 2004, 12:03 PM Post #25 |
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Time to put something here
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There is another end to this that I think it worth mentioning. There is also merit in the idea that one should know when to shut up in their protesting, when it is clear that an action is going to be taken regardless and the protesting can only help make things worse. Knowing when to keep your mouth shut is just as important as knowing when to protest. |
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| Hoss | Aug 19 2004, 12:05 PM Post #26 |
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Don't make me use my bare hands on you.
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Of all the people you are truely one of the most Kind of contradictory. "Of all the people" implies that this person is above all in this respect but "one of the most" implies one of a group that is above all in this respect. Just goes to show that anything you say can be nitpicked to death. :lol: |
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| gvok | Aug 19 2004, 12:09 PM Post #27 |
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I don't want to offend the off-topic people by continuing this, but "of all the people" means everyone here and "one of the most" means she is one of the most of everyone. So I guess I disagree with your analysis 38. I certainly disagree that my intent was anything other than to compliment Minuet. But now I'm starting to regret that I did. |
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| Hoss | Aug 19 2004, 12:11 PM Post #28 |
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Don't make me use my bare hands on you.
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I know, I was just having a laugh at how we get all wrapped up in semantics and such here. It is as though we are all walking on egg shells. It wasn't a cut at you. I know what you meant in your original post. |
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| gvok | Aug 19 2004, 12:13 PM Post #29 |
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Okay. Agreed.
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| Minuet | Aug 19 2004, 12:21 PM Post #30 |
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Ok, I guess I am walking on eggshells myself as an administrator. Thanks for the compliment, but I don't want to be put above the other administrators and moderators. I may have been wrong - but I took the remark as a comment on the moderation. I wanted to make clear that I feel the moderation here is mostly fair. All of us have made some mistakes, because we are human - but we all try to do our best to remain fair in our moderation. As for other posters - frankly Gvok, they don't have to be fair. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. All we ask is that everyone use courtesy. |
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