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Nitwits
Topic Started: Aug 18 2004, 09:33 AM (241 Views)
somerled
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I bet they eat beef, chicken, turkey, pork, lamb, and even fish from time to time.

These are the same dills who oppose the use of live bait.
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captain_proton_au
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"If you wouldn't do this to a dog, why do
it to a fish?,"


Seriously?!?!?! :banghead: :banghead:


:loling: What a COMPLETE waste of time :frust:
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somerled
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^^ and I bet they have multiple piercings, in the ears, nose, tongue, lips, eyebrowel, belly button, nipples and other bits. And they are complaigning about hooks in fish !!! :loling: :rotfl: :evil1:
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I knew it was just a matter of time before they went after fishing. Next, after they shake off the humiliation of every meat eating person on the planet laughing at them, they will go after people with fish tanks.
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doctortobe
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You know, when I gut a fish, it is strange that they never react differently from when I am just touching them. A wild thrash, then stillness, more wild thrashing, then more stillness. They cant feel themselves being cut into pieces, so I doubt that they can feel a hook in their mouth (as somerland or any fisherman knows, all that a fish's mouth is made up of is a small amount of skin and a bony "lip" (plus or minus teeth depending on the species). There are NO major (if any) nerves running through its mouth.
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somerled
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Well , actually , they do respond to pain , but it is an immediate flight response.

Hook a fish and it tries to get away, but that doesn't mean they understand what's happening or will happen to them.

I have frequently caught the same fish several times on the same day - especially sharks, rays and smaller (under size) fish.
I have seen sharks disembowed and still take hooks a few minutes later.

My view - these animal rights types are bunch of fruitcakes.

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somerled
Aug 18 2004, 03:33 PM
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I bet they eat beef, chicken, turkey, pork, lamb, and even fish from time to time.

These are the same dills who oppose the use of live bait.

I very much doubt that the people from PETA eat anysort of meat.
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somerled
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Nah.
I have no doubt they enjoy a nice roast , or T-Bone, burger like all the rest of ludites and carnivores do. They are just kidding themselves about humane killing of animals as opposed to animals killed in the wild. They are hypercrits.

Don't get me wrong - I don't like the idea of animals suffering in order to feed us humans (or our pets), especially animals who have sophisticated nervous systems. But it's a matter of us being the apex predators and them our prey and that's the way of nature.

As far as cruelty towards fish is concerned I'll draw the line at flash baking fish while it is still alive and eating it while it's still alive despite being cooked while it's gills are still moving and it's gob is still opening and closing and it's stearing back at you - an asian delicacy I have heard about that doesn't sound very savioury or appealing to me.
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doctortobe
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somerled
Aug 19 2004, 04:04 AM
Well , actually , they do respond to pain , but it is an immediate flight response.

Hook a fish and it tries to get away, but that doesn't mean they understand what's happening or will happen to them.

I have frequently caught the same fish several times on the same day - especially sharks, rays and smaller (under size) fish.
I have seen sharks disembowed and still take hooks a few minutes later.

My view - these animal rights types are bunch of fruitcakes.

Yes somerled, but they use the exact same actions if you just stick your hands in the water and try to grab them (well, not the sharks). If you don't get them, they swim away very fast. If you do catch them, then they thrash around as wildly as if you had put a hook in their mouth.


If fish did indeed feel pain, then, no matter how weak they were, they would thrash around like crazy as you filleted them. As it is, it looks as if they can only tell that they are being touched and will react the same way no matter what kind of contact it is.
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somerled
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Yes that is correct.

I can easily reach into a livebait tank and lift a bait fish out with one hand if there are several fish in it (they seem to settle down and form little schools, and become more docile and easier to hand), if there are only a few fish in the tank I can find it hard to get one out - even with a net.
The livebait certainly don't like being inpailed on a big hook, they wriggle like crazy when they are sticked, they do however settle down pretty soon once back in the water (after being cast).
I - like most the LBG guy usually let those livebaits that have survived go. I sometimes recatch the very same fish the next day, complete with hole in their tail - it doesn't seem to worry them much, and I regularly catch nigger and baitfish who have lost big chunks of flesh, which is healed , or healing, they behave exactly the same as their pals who are in tact.

As to feeling pain when being gutted or filleted (I'm not sure about that) , I generally cut the throat of fish to dispatch them quickly, else the flavour of the flesh will change - due to stress hormones, and I'll generally keep my catch alive in water (in a keeper or tethered) until the very last minute if it is at all possible.
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what kind of lame rule did they come up with now? :S
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doctortobe
Aug 19 2004, 05:45 PM
If fish did indeed feel pain, then, no matter how weak they were, they would thrash around like crazy as you filleted them. As it is, it looks as if they can only tell that they are being touched and will react the same way no matter what kind of contact it is.

I don't know how we can possibly know if an animal feels pain or not. I suspect all animals do as it is an important survival instinct.
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desainte
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The sad fact of life is that there are morons wherever you go!
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Especially in Moron, Cuba :D
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