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Sistertrek Bush Approval Poll
Topic Started: May 24 2004, 12:47 PM (993 Views)
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Well, I'm not a citizen but I voted not sure. The reason for my not sure is that I do approve of the foreign policy (ie - Iraq and Israel) However, as a non citizen I do not know enough about the domestic issues involved to make a reasonable judgement overall of the man's ability to do the job. Domestic issues are very important when making a decision on so important a job as President/leader.
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Admiralbill_gomec
May 24 2004, 02:11 PM
gvok
May 24 2004, 01:02 PM
Admiralbill_gomec
May 24 2004, 01:59 PM
What kind of horse$h!t is this? Non-citizens voting? Are you afraid that too many people like Bush, gvok?

How about a Kerry approval poll while we're at it?

Why is this horse$hit? I'm just conducting an approval poll. Is the question biased in some way? As for the Kerry poll, feel free to conduct it. I'm interested in the responses to this poll.

But this does raise an interesting issue. The mere posting of this poll seems to have put you on the defensive for some reason. I suspect this is because you think I'm making some kind of veiled attempt to discredit the President. Are you afraid that too many people will not like Bush Admiral?

No, I'm tired of all the piling on bull$H!T!

Let the man LEAD. At least listen to what he has to say tonight before putting up such a poll.

This was simply a followup to the biased CBS poll of 700 people put out this morning. YOU try leading a country through war while the opposition lies about you and their allies in the mainstream (lamestream) media write inaccurate stories about you for six months in a row and ask yourself "How would I rate?"

CLOSE THIS POLL.

(Yes, I'd say the same thing if a Democrat was in office. Why? Because I've served both parties presidents in war.)

I don't really see how conducting an opinion poll on a Star Trek website is impinging on the President's ability to lead. As far as I can tell the question is unbiased. Feel free not to respond to it if you find it offensive. Or better yet, close the topic if you think it is not worthy of posting.
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I am personally offended because I've seen what the man has done throughout the SIX MONTH barrage of lying negativity from the Dems and their allies in the lamestream media. Your comments on here have been mostly negative and I THINK that you are just piling on. That's it. That's why.

I don't close polls or threads in other people's fora, only my own.
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gvok
May 24 2004, 06:59 PM
Wichita
May 24 2004, 01:52 PM
Personal Response

I didn't vote since the options are limited and none fit how I would like to respond.

End of Personal Response

How would you have phrased the poll?

Personal Response

In part, it would depend on what question you are seeking to get answered.

Personally, I would add some shades of gray:

_ I approve of him more than I disapprove.

_ I disapprove, but he has done somethings right in my opinion.


And if you are trying to get a sense of the election results:

_ I disapprove, but he's better than the other choices.


People who approve or disapprove are not likely to change their minds in the election. The "Don't Knows" are a complete wildcard. They may not even show up to vote.

The first three I suggested are the ones whose minds can be changed by events between now and November.

But it depends on what your question is ....

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Admiralbill_gomec
May 24 2004, 02:17 PM
I am personally offended because I've seen what the man has done throughout the SIX MONTH barrage of lying negativity from the Dems and their allies in the lamestream media. Your comments on here have been mostly negative and I THINK that you are just piling on. That's it. That's why.

I don't close polls or threads in other people's fora, only my own.

For the record,

(1) I was supportive of the President until recently.
(2) I have no intention of "piling it on" by posting this poll (honestly).
(3) I thought this was your forum.
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Dr. Noah
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So I guess if you don't support what the government is doing you should just shut up and let them? That's what most Germans did under Hitler.
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W, your response makes a lot of sense. I guess I just wanted to ask as simple a question as possible, but you are right in that the result might not be meaningful. Oh well, it is what it is.
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Well, I used to approve of his performence, but I think he has done a lousy job for the past few months. The Iraq thing is getting out of hand, his whole stance on Gay Marrige lost him that part of the vote, and personally I don't think he's a good leader. He put this country in this situation and I guess tonight he will update us on the progress, but how is he dealing with the scandles, or the Nick berg beheading, or just what is going on there. I just wish he was a better leader, and he lost my vote in November because of it.
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^^That just about sums up my take on the issue.
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Huh?
I voted not sure, because I do not have enough information to give an informed answer.

-Sammi
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Ngagh
May 24 2004, 03:45 PM
I voted not sure, because I do not have enough information to give an informed answer.

-Sammi

Where are you from, Sammi?
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^^Good old Canada, it's cold up here in the Great White North eh...

-Sammi
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Fesarius
May 24 2004, 01:22 PM
I approve wholeheartedly, and will be voting for him again in the next election. :yes:

yeah
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gvok
May 24 2004, 12:47 PM
Feel free to comment on your vote.  Non US citizens are encouraged to vote as well.

Thanks, I have little knowledge of the US internal problems so my concern would be with international matters. Based on just that I would disaprove for quite a few reasons, most notably his conduct in Africa, putting millions of small farmers out of business.
Other main negative points would be hindering the ICC in prosecuting warcriminals, failing to include both sides in peace-talks in the Israeli-Palestine conflict, supporting patent laws beyond US borders on essential medicines and ignoring the world-wide concerns about our environment. He finally lost me with his 'religious' AIDS-HIV african program and by cheating with his export-support programmes.
I can't really think of any positive points to make up for the negative ones.
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Vger_art
May 24 2004, 04:48 PM
gvok
May 24 2004, 12:47 PM
Feel free to comment on your vote.  Non US citizens are encouraged to vote as well.

Thanks, I have little knowledge of the US internal problems so my concern would be with international matters. Based on just that I would disaprove for quite a few reasons, most notably his conduct in Africa, putting millions of small farmers out of business.
Other main negative points would be hindering the ICC in prosecuting warcriminals, failing to include both sides in the Israeli-Palestine conflict, supporting patent laws beyond US borders on essential medicines and ignoring the world-wide concerns about our environment. He finally lost me with his 'religious' AIDS-HIV african program and by cheating with his export-support programmes.
I can't really think of any positive points to make up for the negative ones.

That's funny ... most American that would support Mr. Bush would support him for those exact reasons.

But, for the most part you're wrong on the specifics or you are wrong entirely.

Pres. Bush has not put small farmers out of business, but if you think he has, get specific ... name the program and how it put them out of business.

The United States not signing onto the ICC in no way hinders the prosecution of true war criminals, but it does protect American service members from retalitory legal action.

Pres. Bush has a very specific and unconditional demand from the Palestinians, dump Arafat and elect a leadership. I totally agree with this demand, and I'm very glad Mr. Bush is sticking to it.

From what I understand, it's not Mr. Bush that's not supporting patent laws, it's other nations - specifically 3rd world nations - that are not supporting US patent laws on medicines developed in the US.

China emits, in real numbers, more pollution than the United States. Russia is right up there too. Not to mention, there's still no rock solid proof of a problem. What there is, is computer models developed by climatologists that predict warming. The problem for me is that the models don't match reality. Then every so often, the model is tweaked, so it matches current conditions again. Then with the new model the doomsayers come out again and claim they have conclusive proof of warming. Get this straight if you don't get anything else, the globe was once quite a bit warmer than it is now and until climatologists can satisfactorially explain why current warming isn't just a return to the nominal temperatures, it's illogical to think that the current half degree (F) of temperature increases for the past 100 years is nothing more than a return to the pre-ice age temps.

As for your AIDS concerns, I think you're mixing two issues. Mr. Bush did reduce the level of foriegn aid for abortions, but he dramatically increased the foriegn aid for fighting AIDS. In fact, I think the amount is about $20 billion.

I'm not certain what you're talking about on the exports either. There was an issue about steel tariffs, but thos tariffs are nolonger in place.

I think you need to get more specific on a bunch of these issues.
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