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Is fighting for oil a bad thing?
Topic Started: May 21 2004, 01:24 PM (128 Views)
gvok
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We use oil to transport food, run factories and heat our homes. If oil was cut off tomorrow we'd likely be cold, starving and have no economy. Is preventing that outcome from happening through the use of military force such a bad thing?

note: this post has been over simplified to illistrate a point.
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doctortobe
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It's going to happen anyway. Oil doesn't grow on trees, there is a limited supply of it.
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gvok
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Unless a new technology is developed before that happens.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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doctortobe
May 21 2004, 12:39 PM
It's going to happen anyway. Oil doesn't grow on trees, there is a limited supply of it.

Actually, it does... but it isn't practical as a fuel (olive oil in particular) :)
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ImpulseEngine
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gvok
May 21 2004, 02:24 PM
We use oil to transport food, run factories and heat our homes. If oil was cut off tomorrow we'd likely be cold, starving and have no economy. Is preventing that outcome from happening through the use of military force such a bad thing?

note: this post has been over simplified to illistrate a point.

The context can change the answer.

What are we told vs. what do we do?
Define military force and against who?
What other alternatives besides military force exist?
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gvok
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Feel free to use the current context and the current accusations that the reason we are in Iraq "is for oil".
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Dwayne
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gvok
May 21 2004, 01:24 PM
We use oil to transport food, run factories and heat our homes.  If oil was cut off tomorrow we'd likely be cold, starving and have no economy.  Is preventing that outcome from happening through the use of military force such a bad thing?

note: this post has been over simplified to illistrate a point.

Many major battles of World War 2 were over oil.

The Battle of Stalingrad was an attempt by the NAZI's to take Russian oil.

The Japanese attacked at Pearl Harbor, because the United States cut off Japan's oil.

Any society wishing to perpetuate itself is obligated to secure the resources necessary for its existence.

So ... in a nutshell ... heck no it's not a bad thing ... what's bad is how a nation gets that resource and what is done with that resource.

The Germans and Japanese were willing to militarily conquer other nations to get that oil and were using it to further their military adventurism, whereas the United States is fighting to protect the free flow of oil to the open market.
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captain_proton_au
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LOL, its funny that this topic has come up, now that gas prices are through the roof.
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Dr. Noah
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Came up twenty five years ago, but was ignored then.
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somerled
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Wait for it - the Islamophobes here will next claim those nasty oil rich Mulsim countries are attacking the USA by increasing oil prices and by reducing supply - as a punishment for the invasion of Iraq and as pay back for torturing and killing prisoners in Iraq.

And Iraqi invasion had a great deal to do with gaining control of Iraqi oil and extablishing a USA friendly regime in that region.
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doctortobe
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Hmmmm... let me thhinnk, no.
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