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BREAKING NEWS - WMD; Exploded roadside bomb contains Sarin
Topic Started: May 17 2004, 09:44 AM (1,097 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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somerled
May 18 2004, 12:38 PM
Doc :
You are presuming the story has any credibility. Was not mentioned on the news here tonight and PM Howard has made no mention of the find in press releases.

ABC has made no mention of any Mustard Gas find as of 4am Wed. (EAST) Nor has BBC (it must be getting on to tea-time in the UK now).

I offer that as evidence that perhaps Fox fabricated the Mustard Gas story, if there was any credibility in the story , it would be dynamite for Blaire, Howard, Rumsfeld and Bush Jr who - don't you think - when their credibility has gone around the U bend over non-existant (evaporating) Iraqi WMD.

Oh for Christ's sake, get over yourself!!

Fabricated a story? Yeah, right. You just REFUSE to believe that you're wrong, and also REFUSE to admit it.

You have defined the word "clueless" downward.
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Minuet
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somerled
May 18 2004, 02:38 PM
Doc :
You are presuming the story has any credibility. Was not mentioned on the news here tonight and PM Howard has made no mention of the find in press releases.

ABC has made no mention of any Mustard Gas find as of 4am Wed. (EAST) Nor has BBC (it must be getting on to tea-time in the UK now). 


Howard seeks further details on sarin explosion

Wrong again!

Check the times for both stories yourself. This one was apparently posted just after 11:00am (that's in the morning!) your time on Tuesday.

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I offer that as evidence that perhaps Fox fabricated the Mustard Gas story, if there was any credibility in the story , it would be dynamite for Blaire, Howard, Rumsfeld and Bush Jr who - don't you think - when their credibility has gone around the U bend over non-existant (evaporating) Iraqi WMD.


What a crock of BS. You don't want to be wrong so you assume the story is fabricated.
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ANOVA
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OK Somerled...

What does yuor luandry list of organic chemiclas prove?

Item eight (8) on your laundry list of organic chemicals was "chemical weapons manufacture. Meaning that Mustard Gas would fall into this catagory.


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...(7) synthetic tanning agents, such as naphthalene sulfonic acid condensates; (8) chemical warfare gases; and (9) esters, amines, etc., of polyhydric alcohols and fatty and other acids. Establishments primarily engaged in manufacturing plastics materials and...


Sarin should have also been on the list since it is

A) an organophosphate
B) a chemical weapons gas (OK, technically a vapor or mist)

MY BIG WORRY

If the terrorists found one and we announced it contained Sarin. Didn't we just tell them to go back to the stockpile and extract the gas from the explosive to disperse in a more effective means. Luckily few cropdusters exist in the area.

ANOVA

For every fact, there is an opposite and equal lie. (Newtons first law of rehtoric)
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Sgt. Jaggs
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How about a Voyager Movie
somerled
May 18 2004, 01:18 PM
Jagalom Shaarek:
Maybe the  :grouphug: might have been less unmanly - just a thought.

:huh:

Damn!!!! I should have thought of that! :P Thanks for the thought. Are two people really a group though?

***light bulb goes off........ damn...... a group would be very gay!* :lol:
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ANOVA
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JS

You need the manly pat on the back with a knowing nod of the head. Wait, we don't have a smiley for that.

THESE SMILES ARE GAY

But in a Rock Hudson sort of way not a Truman Capote sort of way.

ANOVA
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doctortobe
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I have seen articles on both the BBC and ABC websites. I would think that the fact that they released an article on one forum and not on another that is more open to the public would be the bigger question. Would they put these articles on their websites if they were not credible?

As to the credibility of the article, it has been widely reported on many different American networks with left leaning views. It was not just FOX.

And if Howard, Blair, Bush, or Rumsfeld were to gain any political points for this, the best they could do is to have their people call the news agencies about it. Last I heard, America had a free press. I assume it is the same with Britain and Australia. They can't force news agencies to do much of anything.
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Minuet
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ANOVA
May 18 2004, 08:43 PM
JS

You need the manly pat on the back with a knowing nod of the head. Wait, we don't have a smiley for that.

THESE SMILES ARE GAY

But in a Rock Hudson sort of way not a Truman Capote sort of way.

ANOVA

Well, what do you expect on a website started by and run by a woman!

BTW to women a group hug is NOT gay :grouphug:

Niether is this :kiss:
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Dandandat
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Time to put something here
Minuet
May 18 2004, 10:26 PM
BTW to women a group hug is NOT gay :grouphug:

Hey I wouldn’t mind group hugging a group of woman ether! that doesn’t make me gay does it?
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Sgt. Jaggs
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How about a Voyager Movie
ANOVA
May 18 2004, 07:43 PM
JS

You need the manly pat on the back with a knowing nod of the head. Wait, we don't have a smiley for that.

THESE SMILES ARE GAY

But in a Rock Hudson sort of way not a Truman Capote sort of way.

ANOVA

You are right. Didn't Capote wear pink? We need a thumbs up type of smiley, meybe evena 'right turn clyde' smiley for "The Fist!"
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24thcenstfan
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Well, before AB tells us all that we are completely :offtopic:

Here are a few slightly more manly smilies: :angel:

Hand shake: Posted Image

Side Hug Squeeze: Posted Image

High Five: Posted Image
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8247
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Apparently we look like this now
:offtopic:
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somerled
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Minuet :
I don't want to burst your bubble but - Howard was referring to that old Sarin shell that was rigged up as mine , and NOT to any Mustard Gas finds.

That is what we are talking about - the alleged find of a Mustard Gas munition made by Fox, but STILL not reported by BBC or ABC or ANY ( A N Y ) Australian networks.

How many times have Fox been first to report as a headline WMD finds were discredited or found to be something else? - I wonder if they take the time to check their sources thoroughly , and how much of their reporting is ratings driven ?
They are certainly politically driven.

If both Sarin and Mustad Gas munitions had really been unearthed then that's a huge story and it with the elections in the UK, USA and Australia coming up soon it would be surely be getting more coverage if there was anything in it.
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somerled
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:offtopic: footy players (you pick the code) have frequent :grouphug: 's. No-one would think that they are a bit "odd"
Posted Image
or would they ? Careful what ball ya grab mate !

The guy at the back with the white headband on is very eliquant - he's saying " Grrrrrrr!!!!!!"
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somerled
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Anova :
That is a list of organics which are multiple use.

As far as I can determine Sarin has ONLY one use and has no legitimate (EDIT [strike]non-military[/strike]) uses. If you can prove otherwize let me know.

Mustard gas (S and N types) have military uses (EDIT not that I am saying these can ever be legitimate) , medical uses and uses as an intermediary substances for the manufacture of some common plastics. Refer to the Merck or the Chem Engr's Hand Book or any Advanced Organic Chemistry Text. This is why the inspectors have to be professionally technically qualified and experienced, not just a bunch of intelligence officers or soldiers who have at best year 12 chemistry and are clueless.

ICI's site might also have technical information pertanent to this discussion, feel free to go there
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doctortobe
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Somerland- They gave you the links to where the BBC and ABC have posted reports on THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITES. Surely the BBC and ABC know what is being put on their news pages? Unless both the BBC and ABC are so incompetant that they could not find any mention of this story AND they somehow put the story onto their own website without knowing it (showing further stupidity), I am suspicious as to why the these nes organizations have deigned not to even LOOK into the issue.

On another note, the sarin shell was mentioned in the New York Times.... on page 11. It seems some marriage issue took the front page.

Could it be that liberals are so unwilling to give Bush this HUGE victory this close to November that some of them are actually trying to decieve the public?
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