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| Will they be compensated for loosing their homes ?; I wonder. | |
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| somerled | May 20 2004, 10:09 PM Post #61 |
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Minuet:
Houses do not need to be fancy to have "basements". Many a very simple home with a timber floor has an enclosed airspace underneigh - my family home when I was child had such a space - you could easily walk about without ducking in parts of that space - my home has a similar space. The poll has already been shown to be unreliable at best.
Smuggling happens everywhere - where do think all those hard drugs in your own town come from ? There is not a single government on Earth that can stop smuggling if the smugglers are determined. If the patrol strip is so narrow, the that makes the performance of GPR surveys even easier as there is less territory to cover. Yep guns and explosives and other things too I would guess are coming in - if not by tunnels , then smuggled in by other means - why ?
They are name dropping in an attempt to look reputable. I've gone back and taken a look at the journalists' links - click a name and all you get is any articles they have published , no info about them apart from their name. Journalists Media links : Outlets Look for yourself to see what I mean. And lsstly Camera's Instructions for generating Pro-Israelii propoganda and discrediting reports that are contrary to Israel's interests. Note the frequent useage of very loaded language. |
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| doctortobe | May 20 2004, 11:08 PM Post #62 |
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Okay, the majority of poverty stricken Muslem houses I have seen have the ground for the floor. You are grasping at straws. The Palestinians know exactly what is going on in their house. Accept it and move on. |
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| somerled | May 21 2004, 03:31 AM Post #63 |
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Really ? when were you last in Palestine ? Or are you just trying to spin your usual islamophobic rubbish again. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | May 21 2004, 07:45 AM Post #64 |
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Are you trying to spin your usual anti-American rubbish again? |
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| Minuet | May 21 2004, 07:57 AM Post #65 |
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You ask Doctortobe when was the last time he was in Palestine. I ask you the same question Mr. I know Everything. Why don't you prove your case instead of making idiotic comments?
What a load of bullcrap! I have shown that the poll was taken by PALESTINIANS not Israelies - and yet you try to discredit it as being from a pro Israeli POV. Any statistician will tell you that the sample taken was more then sufficient and they went to THREE different areas to get a wide POV. You are the only one saying this poll is not credible. You are not a statistician. You probably can't even spell the word
You know, sometimes you are completely impossible to understand. Are you trying to make a point here? The Palestinian Authority could have easily patroled the area and searched houses for tunnels. THEY CHOSE NOT TO. The point of the invasion was to WIDEN the patrol strip for the Israelies. And what the hell does drug smuggling have to do with the issue. We are talking guns - they can be easily detected by metal detectors. Drugs cannot. I state again - the PA CHOOSES not to act.
These are PAYING individual and organization MEMBERS. If thier names were being used without permission I am sure that they would sue. I would. (Personal observation - not administrative)Your arguments get weaker and weaker. You do not have any credibility left with members of this board from any political leanings. I advise you to stop making a fool of yourself. |
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| somerled | May 21 2004, 10:47 AM Post #66 |
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Minuet : Doc made a comment based on his own preconcieved perceptions about the Muslims and Palestinians, which are clouded by his racist views. He has made assumptions which he has no valid supporting evidence for. I think he believes all Arab Muslims are terrorists who hate Americans and who ride about on camels and live in tents whose floors are carpets layed on top of the sand, or that that all live in mud-brick huts with sod floors. While there nomadic Arabs who do live this way, and mud brick is a common building material -when better materials are not available (this also applies in many places in developed Meditarranian countries) this does not necessarily mean his foolish generalisation applies in the case of the people we have been discussing. This is like me saying all Americans live in log huts or in tee-pees or in cardboard boxes or cockroach infested almost derelic appartments in the big cities - except for the ultra wealthy - that's just as rediculous as his comment was. If he is going to make these comments , he like all of us had better be able to substantiate his views. Hell the guy tells us he's training to be a medical doctor and so we should all expect his comments to backed up by evidence and facts - he keeps on making racially bigotted comments and engaging in racial vilification (not just of Muslims , anyone) and he can expect to have his comments challenged and shown to be exactly what they are. There you go again - pointing out spelling or typing errors - these are not important enough to get your nickers into a knot over. - OK how about producing said statistician's analysis of the statistical validity of the data then ? |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | May 21 2004, 11:01 AM Post #67 |
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I think Minuet nailed you perfectly here, Somerled. I don't believe I could have said it better. |
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| Minuet | May 21 2004, 11:13 AM Post #68 |
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Substitute Somerled for Doc and Jews and Israelies for Muslims and Palestinians.
I didn't get my knickers (with a K ) into a knot over anything. Just pointed out that you are an overbearing know it all who pretends to be knowledgeble about many things, but actually knows very little. A LITTLE knowledge is a dangerous thing. I think you are the one with your knickers in a knot.
For the final time look at the friggin poll itself!! The PALESTINIAN statisticians that ran the poll state on the website that there is a 3% margin of error. Do you believe that Palestinians are not intelligent enough to be trained properly as statisticians? You are not accepting thier analysis of the statistical validity of the data??? How very racist of you. |
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| doctortobe | May 21 2004, 11:53 AM Post #69 |
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Somerland, every news interview I see in Palistinian homes shows that they have dirt for floors. The friends I talk to in Iraq say that the MAJORITY of poor Muslem homes are simple clay huts with no floors in them. Hell, I have friends from Mexico who say that their poor have the same no floor homes. It is not all that unusual for the destitute not to bother to put floors in their homes, they are an uneeded expense that would take away from what little food they could buy. Where is YOUR evidence that ALL 80+ homes had some kind of crawlspace where the terrorists could sneak weapons through without the occupants knowing it? All you have said is that your parent's home had a crawlspace. Were you and your parents so poor that you could barely keep food on the table? If you could afford a house that nice then I doubt it. As for the rest of your drivel, I won't even dignafy it with an answer except to say that once again you have shown that you draw conclusions before you even know the facts. |
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| Yo-Yo | May 25 2004, 02:22 AM Post #70 |
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Hi all, sorry i cant stay online long to answer alot more questions and etc. i did find however and interesting article from the BBC about destroying terrorist tunnels (this is surprising because the BBC is notorious for its anti-israeli bias!) Click to page 1 to read from the beginning. BBC - Terrorist Tunnels How all is going well for you all!
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| Fesarius | May 25 2004, 08:06 AM Post #71 |
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Yo-yo, Hello. Hope all is going well for you over there! Keep in touch with us.
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) into a knot over anything. Just pointed out that you are an overbearing know it all who pretends to be knowledgeble about many things, but actually knows very little. A LITTLE knowledge is a dangerous thing. 

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