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Will they be compensated for loosing their homes ?; I wonder.
Topic Started: May 14 2004, 06:48 AM (883 Views)
somerled
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Israeli army begins Palestinian housing demolishment :no: ?
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Dandandat
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Israel announced earlier it would demolish houses to widen the buffer zone it controls on the border, where five soldiers were killed Wednesday in a Palestinian attack on a convoy.


Doesn't seem as one sided as you would like every one to believe.

Five lives for 20 houses – doesn’t seem like a fair price to me :shrug:

Will these five people be compensated for loosing their lives?
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Minuet
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Dandandat - just ignore him. Somerled is just putting his anti-semitic spin on this garbage again.

If the Palestinians want a normal life all they have to do is stop killing Israelis.
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somerled
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How is it antisemetic to enquire if the owners of the homes will be compensated for having their homes forceably demolished ? (I believe its not just a few homes being resumed , but hundreds of homes will be effected - that's a lot of people who will made homeless by this policy) - if the government compulsorially acquires your property or takes it off you then you are entitled to compensation.

Why shouldn't that apply also to these families ?

These aren't wealthy people. This policy seems very inequitable, and discriminatory and inflamatory to me,

But nice try Minuet - if you can't discuss something logically you resort to namecalling. :no: (You should live up to what you have preached to others here.)

Try answering the question - if anyone here can - you can.

Dan :
I would hazard to guess the families of those IDF soldiers will be financially and well compensated for their loss.

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Dandandat
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somerled
May 14 2004, 10:29 AM
Dan :
I would hazard to guess the families of those IDF soldiers will be financially and well compensated for their loss.

How does one financially compensate for the lose of life (how much is life worth)? And if it could be (which it can’t) should not the Palestinian leaders compensate the families of the dead solders? After all you are calling for the Israeli government to compensate for the lose of Palestinian homes. Tit for tat.


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This policy seems very inequitable, and discriminatory and inflamatory to me
on the other hand the policy of killing Israeli solders and citizens on the part of the Palestinians seems to be verey inequitable, and discriminatory and inflammatory to me as well.

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These aren't wealthy people.
Of cores they aren’t, there leaders take all the wealth for them selves. If Israel disappeared tomorrow and the Palestinian people where given the disputed land, they would still be pore, sick and hungry people at the hands of their leaders.
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Just like we compensated the THe citizens of Dresden and Hiroshima, after they stopped the violence against as and there Regimes of terror were destroyed.

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Sgt. Jaggs
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Dandandat
May 14 2004, 09:40 AM
somerled
May 14 2004, 10:29 AM
Dan :
I would hazard to guess the families of those IDF soldiers will be financially and well compensated for their loss.

How does one financially compensate for the lose of life (how much is life worth)? And if it could be (which it can’t) should not the Palestinian leaders compensate the families of the dead solders? After all you are calling for the Israeli government to compensate for the lose of Palestinian homes. Tit for tat.


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This policy seems very inequitable, and discriminatory and inflamatory to me
on the other hand the policy of killing Israeli solders and citizens on the part of the Palestinians seems to be verey inequitable, and discriminatory and inflammatory to me as well.

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These aren't wealthy people.
Of cores they aren’t, there leaders take all the wealth for them selves. If Israel disappeared tomorrow and the Palestinian people where given the disputed land, they would still be pore, sick and hungry people at the hands of their leaders.

Exactly.

They must hold their leaders accountable for their condition.
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somerled
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Dan:
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This policy seems very inequitable, and discriminatory and inflamatory to me

on the other hand the policy of killing Israeli solders and citizens on the part of the Palestinians seems to be verey inequitable, and discriminatory and inflammatory to me as well.

I'll not dispute that.

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How does one financially compensate for the lose of life (how much is life worth)? And if it could be (which it can’t) should not the Palestinian leaders compensate the families of the dead solders? After all you are calling for the Israeli government to compensate for the lose of Palestinian homes. Tit for tat.

Our military are covered by "life insurance" when in action or in harms way.
Should they die - then like any insurance or superannuation policy the surviving family is compensated. Is this not correct ? (Well my cousin and his colleagues in the RAN are) - I'm presuming this is part of the work-conditions in the modern military.
I know it has been the case - at least for Australian soldiers, sailors and airmen since WWII , as when my dad lost the sight in one eye in a battle he was asked to sign an agreement with the AIF to the effect that he was allowed to return to his unit and active duty only if he wavered any future claim against the AIF by his family if he was killed as a result of his injury , they wanted to medically discharge him in 1941, but he wanted to go back to his unit and his mates who were more family to him than his own had been).


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Admiralbill_gomec
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To be blunt, why should this be my (or anyone on here's) problem?

You know, if Palestinians would STOP BLOWING THEMSELVES UP IN RESTAURANTS AND AT BUS STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF CROWDS OF ISRAELIS, THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN AT ALL!
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somerled
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So you (support) community punishments for the actions of a very small group and reprisals by an army against civilians are OK ?
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Please write a sentence that makes sense. I have absolutely no idea as to what you just wrote.
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Minuet
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To add to the life insurance bit. Soldiers may be covered by life insurance but what about compensation for the families of the innocent CIVILIANS that the Palestinians keep killing.

When they compensate the families then they can ask for compensations for thier mud huts.
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Vger_art
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A few weeks ago I watched a documentary on television, a 16 year old palestinian kid blew himself up killing several israelis. The boy left a videotape explaining he was proud to die for his people and his country, not a word of farewell to his parents.
Later the reporter interviewed the boy's blind father. The boy stayed out after school and became more and more obsessed contributing to what he called the holy cause, he didn't listen or talk to his parents anymore and one morning he left to blow himself up. The father looked beaten and complained it had been impossible for them (him and his wife) to raise their child in a normal way under those circumstances. He also feared his blindness had underminded his authority at home but he was also furious at the fanatics responsible for brainwashing his son and getting the boy killed. He felt the Hamas leaders were the real criminals, cowards for picking on children and not putting themselves at risk.
They were still in mourning when the israeli soldiers came, threw him and his wife out and destroyed their home. Now they live on a garbage dump. I wonder how many more boys volunteered for suicide missions after that.
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somerled
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They are being injured / killed in public places. So I guess they have the right to civil compensation.

Just like if you slip on a slippery tile at a shopping centre. This is why restraunts and bus companies and shopping centres buy indemnity insurance.

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When they compensate the families then they can ask for compensations for thier mud huts.
Many of those mud huts have been family homes for centuries and stayed in the same family all that time. Destroying these is paramount to demolishing a historic building, not to mention punishing people who are innocent of the crime.
That's just vindictive revenge taking - plain and simple - and solves nothing.
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Many of those mud huts have been family homes for centuries and stayed in the same family all that time. Destroying these is paramount to demolishing a historic building



Thank you Somerled, you have solved the Palestinian problem with this one statement. The Palestinians have no right of return, because their already home and have been for centuries.

Gosh, if I had known that the Palestinians were actually claiming for land that hadn't been theirs in the first place.

Of course, Israelis have equal claim to the term Palestinians and an equal claim to the Arab occupied terratories (Gaza and the west bank) as do the Arabs.

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