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| Tweet Topic Started: May 11 2004, 02:22 PM (993 Views) | |
| Dwayne | May 11 2004, 02:22 PM Post #1 |
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In the interest of the publics right to know, I demand that CBS release the full video of his beheading. |
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| Dandandat | May 11 2004, 02:47 PM Post #2 |
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why do you want to see it? Where is the public out cry? Suddenly naked bodies and barking dogs don’t seem so bad. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 11 2004, 02:53 PM Post #3 |
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I don't know about you, but I always liked naked bodies. Barking dogs get a little annoying after a while though. |
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| Dwayne | May 11 2004, 03:16 PM Post #4 |
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I personally do not want to see it, but the fact remains that beheading someone with a knife is torture, and while the media whines about supposed tortures in Abu Ghurayb Prison and demands to release all those photos, they'll suppress this video at the same time. I'm absolutely disgusted with the state of the media today. They've indirectly become the mouth piece of enemies to Western society. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 11 2004, 03:22 PM Post #5 |
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Here we go again. :rolleyes: |
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| ImpulseEngine | May 11 2004, 03:48 PM Post #6 |
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First of all, this is completely disgusting. And I agree that beheading with a knife IS torture. I don't think the vidieo should be shown publicly without at least consulting the victim's family and obtaining their consent - out of respect. Personally, I don't want to see it either. This just happened today. A public outcry may be still coming. However, there is a big difference. Members of al Queda are the bad guys. We're at least supposed to be the good guys. When the good guys are seen doing things that only the bad guys should be guilty of, THAT's what causes the public outcry. THAT's what is both shocking and surprising. This beheading is shocking, but not surprising. I'm not defending the media and I certainly have my own axes to grind with them. But I think comparing these two atrocities is more like comparing apples and oranges because the U.S. and the Coalition are not in the same classification as al Queda. |
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| captain_proton_au | May 11 2004, 03:57 PM Post #7 |
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I think this article sums it up quite nicely... Berg's Killers Are Right About One Thing By David Thibault CNSNews.com Managing Editor May 11, 2004 We knew it wouldn't take long for the barbaric animals in their long robes and headscarves to use the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse as an excuse to lash out at an innocent American. Nick Berg was in Iraq to help rebuild the country, but the 26-year-old contractor from Philadelphia ended up being butchered by the masked cowards owing allegiance to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - a disciple of Osama bin Laden. Nobody should be surprised that this slime posted the videotaped decapitation of Berg on their website. However, make no mistake - the execution of this American civilian was in no way revenge for the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Berg's executioners were simply waiting for a convenient moment to capture worldwide attention. They have no more concern over how the Iraqi prisoners were treated than they have for Berg's family. "God is great," Berg's killers barked after the murder. Captured on videotape, the episode will no doubt be hailed by Islamic extremists all over the world as a great victory - the grisly slaying of a defenseless civilian. And while the Berg decapitation will show the Islamic terrorists at their own perceived best, the photos and videos out of Abu Ghraib will continue to show America at its perceived worst. That's right! Masked cowards (they might as well belong to the Ku Klux Klan) murdering an unarmed civilian on camera are a reason for Islamic extremists to celebrate. Photos showing a naked Iraqi prisoner with lady's underpants over his head are a reason for Americans to despair. As horrible as Berg's murder is, it will serve to bolster the Bush administration, by reminding the world of the moral differences between the Islamist killers who invoke the name of God while carrying out their satanic actions and the Bush White House that is seeking to exterminate these insects. But as if facing the Bush war machine isn't imposing enough for al Zarqawi and his henchmen, imagine what they'll have to confront when their miserable time is up on this earth, when they have to face up to God. Nick Berg's killers are right about one thing. God is great. He's also just. (David Thibault is managing editor for CNSNews.com.) Copyright 2004, CNSNews.com |
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| Dwayne | May 11 2004, 04:01 PM Post #8 |
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Oh really...we're not the bad guys. I guess you haven't been to one of the peace protests. Fact is, many on the left do consider the United States the enemy and the wrong do'ers. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 11 2004, 04:07 PM Post #9 |
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As someone who has participated in peace protests, I have to say that sometimes the leaders of the United States are right, and sometimes they're wrong. I think maybe you have the wrong impression. It's everyone's responsibility to hold our leaders accountable. If our government is involved in injustice, we have to do something about it. I doubt many of the "people on the left" consider America "the enemy" especially since many of us are Americans. Whether or not the current occupation and war is just or not is a matter of opinion. I think it's wrong to call people with a certain perspective on current events "un-American" assuming they are regarding America as "the enemy". This is oversimplfying the situation. Patriotism isn't supporting your government no matter what they do, that's nationalsim. Patriotism is supporting your country, and supporting your government when they deserve it. -Mark Twain |
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| Dwayne | May 11 2004, 04:12 PM Post #10 |
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http://internationalanswer.org/ Case Closed |
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| Dr. Noah | May 11 2004, 04:13 PM Post #11 |
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a. nothing on that site says "America is the enemy" and b. This organization doesn't speak for everybody on the left. |
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| ImpulseEngine | May 11 2004, 04:23 PM Post #12 |
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And so do some on the right. But they all also believe that we're supposed to do better while they don't believe that about al Qaeda. |
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| Dwayne | May 11 2004, 04:23 PM Post #13 |
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It doesn't have to say America is the enemy - it does so by inference. All the peace protests have been organized in part or in entirity by International ANSWER. These people protested the Gulf War and they blamed America for 9-11. |
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| ImpulseEngine | May 11 2004, 04:29 PM Post #14 |
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On the whole I agree with you. There are some people who protest who probably do consider the U.S. to be the enemy. But the vast majority who protest do so because of their patriotism. If they didn't care about their country, they wouldn't care enough to stand up and complain when they believe their country is heading in the wrong direction. |
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| Dandandat | May 11 2004, 04:30 PM Post #15 |
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So because we are "suppose" to do better its ok to "ignore" everything else? I agree with you that we are suppose to be better, but I find something wrong with the way every one harps on the little thing the US does, while other more sinister things go on with out even batting an eye. We are supost to be be purfict while every one else is doing much wrong? |
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