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Talk of Reinstating the Draft in US Senate
Topic Started: Apr 21 2004, 08:47 AM (911 Views)
somerled
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Admiral MacDonald RN
Why should I ?

Someone has got to keep you ultra-right-wingers honest, you've scared all the other sceptics away.
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Fesarius
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^^^
I hope you stay. I think skepticism is healthy. It may surprise you to know this, Somerled, but I reject most things--and am quite a skeptic myself. But the good news is that which I hold on to as my 'truth' has been very carefully thought out and scrutinized. :)
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Intrepid2002
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fireh8er
Apr 21 2004, 01:14 PM
A hitch in the military would do some of those saggy pants wearing youngsters some good.  Nothing wrong with a little discipline!  Some of them need someone to get in their face and sweat them.

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"Get on your knees, Scumbag! :realmad:

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

This is just my opinion but I think it's easier to make the commitment to serve if you don't have ties and responsibilities such as a spouse, children, a mortgage, aging parents etc. All the more respect to those reservists who DO serve, in whatever capacity, in the military despite the fact that they have spouses and children depending on them.

Two years in the military would be good for any able bodied, saggy panted young adult. I would insist on good old American "I Love the USA" underwear though.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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somerled
Apr 22 2004, 10:44 AM
Why should I ?

Someone has got to keep you ultra-right-wingers honest, you've scared all the other sceptics away.

Honest? I've never been anything but honest.

You, on the other hand, do nothing but try to bait people on here with your anti-America, anti-Israel opinions, which are mostly based on a very limited point of view.

If the TRUTH scares others away, then maybe they've learned something.
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somerled
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Bill :
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:hail: Emperor Gomec :hail:
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You take yourself way too seriously.

Those who have been scared away are this board's loss, a loss of diversity of views and opinions, which will make it boring. (But maybe you disagree, that is just my opinion.)
This board risks becoming an irrelevant conservative / ultra-rightwing haven and love-in.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Only from your narrow perspective...

Your problem is that you can't ever admit you are wrong, even when presented with actual data.
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somerled
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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Minuet
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^^^Careful what you call yourself. People might start refering to you as the back end of that horse.
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somerled
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That would be very adult of them.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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I guess we won't be needing a draft after all...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apw...e%20Enlistments

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Dr. Noah
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I understand Somerled, and am disheartened to find that there are others who became frustrated by the lack of neutral regulation on this board which is the reason I originally left. Diversity of opinions are very necessary to a balanced discussion regardless of the bashing you and others may take. That's what democracy is, the freedom to disagree. Freedom to have and express your own opinion. Unfortunately, I think some here have missed that point, resorting to attacks and overgeneralized stigma attached to any opinion one might give. Anti-American is a popular favorite. Even Americans can disagree with the people in charge, it doesn't make them un-American. It makes them responsible. If the government is doing something wrong, someone should say something about it.

To quote Mark Twain: I am a patriot, I support my country always, and I support my government when they deserve it.

That's my two cents, flame away!!!
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Fesarius
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This board risks becoming an irrelevant conservative / ultra-rightwing haven and love-in.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. ;)

Seriously, I can recall the time when a love-in would have been associated only with the liberal political spectrum, or the left in general. I was part of that group years ago. I am now a conservative, with one major exception--I am as left as one can go with regard to my musical tastes, if that can be measured in terms of 'right' or 'left.' :)
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Admiralbill_gomec
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The Sisko
Apr 26 2004, 05:08 PM
I understand Somerled, and am disheartened to find that there are others who became frustrated by the lack of neutral regulation on this board which is the reason I originally left. Diversity of opinions are very necessary to a balanced discussion regardless of the bashing you and others may take. That's what democracy is, the freedom to disagree. Freedom to have and express your own opinion. Unfortunately, I think some here have missed that point, resorting to attacks and overgeneralized stigma attached to any opinion one might give. Anti-American is a popular favorite. Even Americans can disagree with the people in charge, it doesn't make them un-American. It makes them responsible. If the government is doing something wrong, someone should say something about it.

To quote Mark Twain: I am a patriot, I support my country always, and I support my government when they deserve it.

That's my two cents, flame away!!!

There is a difference between disagreeing and calling for "overthrow" or "regime change", shouting "selected, not elected" and calling George Bush "Resident" instead of President. (This is a generic observation, not a specific one toward you.)

I disagreed a LOT with Bill Clinton's foreign policy, but I kept my mouth shut, said "Aye aye, sir" and did my job. I guess the difference now is that I can explain why I disagree, not make ad hominem attacks.

Also, it is DIFFERENCE of opinion, not diversity of opinion. Geez, how words become corrupted when they become PC. A diversity of opinion would mean that two positions are different, but have equal merit. This is NOT always the case, especially when one opinion can be proven wrong. A difference of opinion means there is a disagreement over either a point or a principle. This difference may not have equal merit, also because one is based on feelings or is just someone's opinion.

For example, I can say that the sky is green and you can say it is blue. Both are opinions, but only one is based on fact. There has to be a metric (something measurable) involved as well.
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Dr. Noah
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So a difference of opinion within your set perameters is acceptable Admiral?

Would you please forward me a copy of your rules of opinions so that I may be in full compliance with your standards when posting my viewpoint on things?

Thanks.
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Fesarius
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The Sisko,

A question, if I may. If you state an opinion, and that opinion is shown to be invalid, wouldn't you want to be told as much? (I'm not making a value judgement on *anything* you have written; rather, I am asking you if you would want to be corrected. I know that I would welcome such a correction. ;))
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