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| Fesarius | Apr 19 2004, 01:05 PM Post #31 |
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Rose, Well, you certainly have succeeded in surprising me today!
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| Surok | Apr 19 2004, 09:32 PM Post #32 |
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The problem with getting NOW to bash him goes deeper than NOW membership numbers: Clinton's support among women, all women, surprised the heck out of me. Unfortunately, Grandma Wichita is outnumbered by those who think sex and sexual behavior can be separated from the rest. History is filled with capable presidents or leaders of one sort or another whose only glitch was the inability to keep it in their pants. For starters, we could have lost Jefferson and FDR. And if Lincoln really was gay ... Whether the majority here likes that view or not, it is the predominant one I have seen expressed. People care little what a leader does with his genitalia if times are good (or seem good) and they have a job. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Apr 19 2004, 10:43 PM Post #33 |
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If so, then why was Clinton impeached (by your logic), then? |
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| doctortobe | Apr 19 2004, 10:53 PM Post #34 |
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Actually, Clinton's impeachment does fit into Surok's statement. During the procedings, there was a good amount of public opinion stating that it was a political witch hunt. Many people did not believe that Clinton's actions warrented impeachment. And since when was Lincoln gay?
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| Wichita | Apr 20 2004, 06:06 AM Post #35 |
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Personal opinion So expressing anything but a fawning opinion of the man is a "bash", huh?
You do know that I am a woman, don't you, Surok? Clinton never had support among ALL women. He had a high level of support among CERTAIN groups of women. NOW DID have a powerful bargaining position with Clinton because of those groups of women, but they sold that power to Clinton for not a song, but the PROMISE of song and he failed to deliver anything meaningful in return. Many women were turned off by the "campaign of destruction" waged by the White House against any woman who dared to say anything about the President. If there's nothing to it, why did they need to get the whole armored division out to refute them? Personally I paid no attention until Clinton spoke those famous words "I did not have sex with THAT woman." At that moment I knew the story about Lewinsky was true and that probably Paula Jones' was as well. I have heard Lewinsky described in the lowest terms possible by people who describe themselves as Democrats all the while Clinton's actions are characterized as a "mistake". Minutes after meeting her, she was on her knees "servicing" him. It was many things, but it wasn't an "affair". That doesn't speak well of either of them. What it was was ON company time, IN the workplace, and between a male supervisor and one of his employees. If that's acceptable behavior, then it should be acceptable for EVERYONE.
Or we could just skip pandering to little boys and put a woman in charge ....
But when they realize that times aren't as good as they were led to believe, they take it out on the Vice President in the next election. And the reason you just saw that opinion expressed might explain why FOX news became such a phenomenally popular station in such a short period of time. I will also go out on a limb here and say the Republicans ran the wrong candidate in 1996. Had they run Elizabeth Dole instead of Bob, the issue of how Clinton was perceived by women would look very different. She still would probably not have won, but it would have been a very different election.
Ever watch any of the hearings of the different committees, Doctortobe? One I watched, the first hour was spent on taking role call. Why? The Democratic members of the committee were not in their chairs - they were in the room, but not in their chairs. If the Republicans couldn't come up with a high enough number without them, the committee couldn't meet. When the Republicans finally did, the Democrats ran for their chairs and the whole thing started all over. During another hearing they were talking to a guy (Craig Jessup?) who was responsible for caring for the 2000 government files kept the White House that "happened" to all be of Republicans. The Republican representatives asked him who hired him. They never got an answer. He "couldn't remember" who told him that he could report on Monday morning to one of the most secure buildings in the world and that he would be let in. Neither could he remember who actually let him in when he did report. In the hours that I watched that hearing he was never asked a question of substance by a Democrat. It was partisianship at its worst and BOTH parties should take responsibility. Personal Opinion |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Apr 20 2004, 07:43 AM Post #36 |
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Rose, for clarification it was Craig Livingstone and those were FBI files (collected over a lifetime). It is rumored that the Clintons have copies of all of them. |
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| doctortobe | Apr 20 2004, 09:42 AM Post #37 |
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I'm just talking about Clinton's Approval Rating during the impeachment process. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Apr 20 2004, 01:11 PM Post #38 |
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It was his job approval rating. His personal approval rating dropped quite a bit... low 40s by the beginning of 1998 when he said, "I did not have... sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." |
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