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Any one ketch the president last night?
Topic Started: Apr 14 2004, 07:24 AM (634 Views)
Dandandat
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Any one ketch the president last night?

All I have to say why does the media have this preoccupation with getting the president to admit he was to blame for 9/11. Or that he was wrong in Iraqi or that he was wrong in general? I guess you can charge a lot of money for ad space when “President admits he was wrong” is on the front page.

Oh also (and I think this about every press conference ever) way do reports ask the same god dame questions over and over and over again. If the guy sitting next to you just asked a question, don’t repeat it with a few words changed it just annoying and a waist of time, ask something new.

Oh one more thing, the president is a bad off the cuff speaker – I know we all know this already, and I really don’t care, but I thought that last night so I thought I would share.

Really this will be the last thing, The Presidents message was every good last night and it really helped to quantify what’s going on, what happened in the past few weeks, and where he stands on the idea of pulling out early. Once again he has stated that Iraqi is only part of the war on terror and that war is not the only and is the last chose. And I liked his words about how its America’s duty to be the leader in bringing freedom to the rest of the world, along with food and medicine.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Yes, I watched this. The media (especially the New Yawk Times) should be ashamed of itself.

Does anyone remember when journalism was about Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How?

Yes, Bush is a bad off-the-cuff speaker. But considering the topic, I don't see this as a liability. After all, he isn't describing the fish he caught last weekend, he is talking about terrorism and the war. These are heady subjects. These subjects are obviously way over the heads of the simpletons asking those lame questions.
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gvok
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The sad thing about is that I'm now used to the President's speaking ability. I've finally reached that point. I hope in terms of speaking ability Bush is an aberation and not a precedent setter.
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fireh8er
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I didn't watch it , but I listened to it on the radio. I thought it was a good speech. I know a lot will say he speaks poorly, but that's what I like about him. He sometimes stumbles and mispronounces some words, that's okay. That's what I like about him, he's human. Why do they keep asking him to apologize? Bin Laden was behind it. Not the president. It's good to here from him what is going on in Irag and the war against terrorism.
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Dandandat
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fireh8er
Apr 14 2004, 12:22 PM
I didn't watch it , but I listened to it on the radio. I thought it was a good speech. I know a lot will say he speaks poorly, but that's what I like about him. He sometimes stumbles and mispronounces some words, that's okay. That's what I like about him, he's human. Why do they keep asking him to apologize? Bin Laden was behind it. Not the president. It's good to here from him what is going on in Irag and the war against terrorism.

I agree that’s one of the reasons I like him as well. I would talk exactly the same way if I was asked. Some people where born to speak, some where born to be president, they aren’t mutually exclusive. No one would have voted a cripple into office yet because they didn’t know they did it 3 times, and he was one of our best presidents according to history.
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Dwayne
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I saw it.

It wasn't his best nor was it his worst.

What his speech should do is reaffirm that no matter what, Bush is sticking to his guns and will not back down from terror.

It should also reaffirm that Bush sees Iraq as part of the War on Terror and not a separate battle.

Lastly - for those that supported Iraq and are now sitting on the fence, because Iraq has not turned out the way they thought - it should strengthen his poll numbers.
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Adrian
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The thing about being a bad improvisational speaker is that good questions he doesn't expect force him to deviate from his standard script. How many times have you heard "the oceans no longer protect us", "the world changed on September eleventh", and so on. But by getting past the pre packaged answers we can find out what he thinks and how he plans to do things.
As for this bad speaking ability, it's an ability to express oneself (kind of vital for one who is supposed to convince other to his side). It isn't like FDR's polio crippled legs, he was still an effective thinker and speaker. I think people equating Bush's poor speaking ability give him a free pass; if he really believes in something he should know how to express it. If he can't, perhaps he didn't believe it or it was a bad idea.
Dwayne, there's going to have to be a huge change in Congress before they let us invade another country under the banner of "the war on terror". Diplomatic pressure? Sure.Funds? OK. Traing of troops? Maybe. Pre-emtive invasion? No.
That's another reason war has to be the last resort. It's hard to convince Congress to attack the USSR right after toppling the Nazis. In this case even harder, considering the weak case for WMD's and Iraqi terror links.
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Dwayne
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Adrian
Apr 14 2004, 12:33 PM
Dwayne, there's going to have to be a huge change in Congress before they let us invade another country under the banner of "the war on terror". Diplomatic pressure? Sure.Funds? OK. Traing of troops? Maybe. Pre-emtive invasion? No.

The idiocy of Leftoids never ceases to amaze me.

Iraq was not a pre-emptive anything ... it was an end to the 1991 cease-fire and a resumption of hostilities.

And I can tell you right now, if Iran and Syria continue to meddle in Iraq, expect first cruise missiles, then flights, and then troops.

The War on Terror is not a war against al Qaeda - the War on Terror is a war against Middle Eastern terrorist organizations and the nation-states that sponsor those organizations.
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Cool Vulcan
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I disagree with one thing Admiral, I think he speaks very well mind you yes he has to think for a second, on how he says a word. Otherwise he did a fine job at defending his dissesion and defending what he done. I agree and understand fully at what he said and agree with 99% of what he said. The New York Times can kiss my ass, they are no nothings always have been. I haven't looked yet but I bet its been twisted.
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gvok
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Taverner are you saying that the President spoke well during his speach or when he was answering questions?
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Minuet
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Dwayne
Apr 14 2004, 01:49 PM
The idiocy of Leftoids never ceases to amaze me.

Administrative comment:

Please keep your discussion to answering the comments of individuals. "The Left" comprises a large number of people with varying opinions and degrees of "leftness".
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Dwayne
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Minuet
Apr 14 2004, 01:46 PM
Dwayne
Apr 14 2004, 01:49 PM
The idiocy of Leftoids never ceases to amaze me.

Administrative comment:

Please keep your discussion to answering the comments of individuals. "The Left" comprises a large number of people with varying opinions and degrees of "leftness".

So you think everyone left of center is a Leftoid?

I don't think so.

One of my biggest complaints about the modern day Liberals is that they really aren't liberal at all.
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24thcenstfan
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Yes I watched it. It is always nice when the President (any President) takes time to address the nation (even in Press Conference fashion).

He didn’t say much of anything new…just reaffirming the June 30th deadline and a few other tidbits. In addition, he spoke in his usual oratorical fireworks style. :P

Overall, not too bad of a press conference. :shrug:
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Dandandat
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Adrian
Apr 14 2004, 01:33 PM
As for this bad speaking ability, it's an ability to express oneself (kind of vital for one who is supposed to convince other to his side). It isn't like FDR's polio crippled legs, he was still an effective thinker and speaker. I think people equating Bush's poor speaking ability give him a free pass;


I disagree whole heartedly, being a bad public speaker does not mean you necessarily have trouble getting your point across, it just means you have to work harder and find ways around the problem. I am dyslexic, which by your standard would make me a bad test procedure writer, but the fact is that is what I do for a living and I am dam good at it.

on another note Bush’s manner of speaking draws me in closer because he doesn’t strike me as if he is trying to sell me something.

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if he really believes in something he should know how to express it. If he can't, perhaps he didn't believe it or it was a bad idea.
This utterly fouls. If this where true then you would have to apply this same logic to everone. In that world all the snakes who try to talk you into things must all be right. and the soft spoken geneses must all be wrong.
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gvok
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The speaking ability of the President of the United States has traditionally been held to a higher standard than just a regular shmoe on the street. I for one would be in favor of a more articulate president.
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