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The alamo; Is it accuate?
Topic Started: Apr 12 2004, 03:08 PM (163 Views)
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I've heard two differnt veiws. One saids that it is more accuate then the John Wayne version. The other is saying that it is terribably inaccuate with a lot of Political Correctness. I was wondering if someone familiar with the battle and had seen the movie had an opinion.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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I haven't seen the movie yet.

People may be interested in reading, "Lone Star Nation" before seeing the movie. It is a warts-and-all accounting of the founding of Texas, from settlements to province to revolution to nation to state... from 1828 to 1865. It was written by HW Brands, who also did a very good biography on Ben Franklin called "The First American."
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I've only seen the JW version, it was one sided I thought and made the Spanish out to be bloodfirsty villians, but not a bad flick .

The new movie - another remake !!! - hasn't come to theatres here yet.

Personally - I'll probably wait until I can rent the DVD.
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But why are they remaking Spartacus?
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somerled
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I remember seeing Spartacus at the local drivein (long since redeveloped into an light industrial estate - much to the local councils shame) with the whole family when I was a kid - it was pretty good. Haven't it since.

I wouldn't mind seeing it again (the original), but not so sure about the remake.
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somerled
Apr 14 2004, 09:25 AM
I've only seen the JW version, it was one sided I thought and made the Spanish out to be bloodfirsty villians, but not a bad flick .

The new movie - another remake !!! - hasn't come to theatres here yet.

Personally - I'll probably wait until I can rent the DVD.

Weren't the Texans fighting the Mexicans at the Alamo?
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Something to do with the early republic of USA annexing a big chunk of land that was part of the Spanish Empire at the time wasn't it.

Were they called Texans then (early 1820s or there abouts) ?
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Somerled, if you want to brush up on your history here is the official website for The Alamo.

I visited it last year when I was living in Texas. It was a very interesting historical site, in a beautiful city.
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Were they called Texans then (early 1820s or there abouts)?

Yes, although the term 'Canadian' is used interchangeably nowadays. ;)
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Okay, I looked it up. The Texans were fighting to get independence from Mexico (not the Spanish). The battle of the Alamo was one battle within that struggle. Here is a timeline of some of the events leading up to the battle.


3 January 1823 -- Stephen F. Austin received a grant from the Mexican government and began colonization in the region of the Brazos River.

Mid-1824 -- The Constitution of 1824 gave Mexico a republican form of government. It failed, however, to define the rights of the states within the republic, including Texas.

6 April 1830--Relations between the Texans and Mexico reached a new low when Mexico forbid further emigration into Texas by settlers from the United States.

1832-1833 -- The Convention of 1832 and the Convention of 1833 in Texas were triggered by growing dissatisfaction among the settlements with the policies of the government in Mexico City.

October 1835 -- Texans repulsed a detachment of Mexican cavalry at the Battle of Gonzales. The revolution began.

3 November 1835 -- The Consultation met to consider options for more autonomous rule for Texas. A document known as the Organic Law outlined the organization and functions of a new Provisional Government.

11 December 1835 -- Mexicans under Gen. Cos surrendered San Antonio to the Texans following the Siege of Bexar. Ben Milam was killed during the extended siege.

2 March 1836 -- The Texas Declaration of Independence was signed by members of the Convention of 1836. An ad interim government was formed for the newly created Republic of Texas.

6 March 1836 -- Texans under Col. William B. Travis were overwhelmed by the Mexican army after a two-week siege at the Battle of the Alamo in San Antonio.
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Wait a minute.
They had only just tossed the Spanish governors and army out (1821 Mexican War of Independence ended in 1821 Mexico's History) - OK I stand corrected.



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See... Everyone wants independence eventually... ;) :D :angel:
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