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Time to come clean
Topic Started: Apr 10 2004, 07:45 AM (874 Views)
Dwayne
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Minuet
Apr 11 2004, 12:42 PM
^^^Party affiliation should be protected by privacy laws. This is just flat out wrong, no matter which side is using it!

Well then, how would you feel about a presidential candidate demanding to know a persons party affiliation?
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Dwayne,I don't understand your question.

I am not talking about career politicians who obviously need to reveal how they would run the government. I am talking about everyday people going about thier everyday lives. If the examples given by Surok and Doctortobe are true then I feel that privacy has been breached. One should not need to be a member of the "correct" party to get a building permit, a civil service job, or a job at a university.

I noticed that the examples came from both parties and my point is that it is wrong for both, so don't bother coming back to me with the argument that it is alright for one side to do it because the other side does too. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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Dwayne
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Apr 11 2004, 01:14 PM
Dwayne,I don't understand your question.

I am not talking about career politicians who obviously need to reveal how they would run the government. I am talking about everyday people going about thier everyday lives. If the examples given by Surok and Doctortobe are true then I feel that privacy has been breached. One should not need to be a member of the "correct" party to get a building permit, a civil service job, or a job at a university.

I noticed that the examples came from both parties and my point is that it is wrong for both, so don't bother coming back to me with the argument that it is alright for one side to do it because the other side does too. Two wrongs do not make a right.

:whistle:

Must I explain everything?

I wonder if AB can understand my question?

I said, "Well then, how would you feel about a presidential candidate demanding to know a persons party affiliation?"

"how would you feel"
I'm asking for you to relate your own opinion on a matter.

"about a presidential candidate"
The person whose opinion I wanted you to examine.

"demanding to know"
The action of the presidential candidate.

"a persons party affiliation"
What the presidential candidate wanted to know.

Do you really not understand my question?
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Wichita
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Based on her previous comments, I would guess that she thinks it isn't any of his/her business. Now, if that's not the question that you are asking, I don't understand it either.
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Dwayne
Apr 11 2004, 12:47 PM
Minuet
Apr 11 2004, 12:42 PM
^^^Party affiliation should be protected by privacy laws. This is just flat out wrong, no matter which side is using it!

Well then, how would you feel about a presidential candidate demanding to know a persons party affiliation?

He's talking about when John Kerry was making a speech, and a man stood up, and asked about Kerry's foreign leader endorsements. Kerry, instead of trying to change this guy's mind about him, attacked him, saying that the leaders were "none of his business", and then, asked this man who he voted for, and if he was a republican. It happened about a month ago. That was the first incident where he showed no class whatsoever. The second time, he jumped on a group of guys who started waving flip flops in the air at a speech. He could have easily tried to sway them, and win their votes, but once again, he didnt.
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I had forgotten the first story and never heard the second.

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Well 8247, thanks for the explanation. As a Canadian I can hardly be expected to know what has happened at every political speech that has been made during the campaign.

As for Dwayne, must I explain everything? :P

I am not talking about political situations

I am talking about people being discriminated against in thier personal lives due to thier political affiliations and basically being forced, in some situations to join the "correct" party. I am not even ascertaining that the stories are true. However they came from 2 different posters and showed the partisanship being used for the wrong reasons from more then one party. If these stories are true then I think Americans should be ashamed.

And you should know by now that I am not anti-American.
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Dwayne
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Apr 11 2004, 02:19 PM
Based on her previous comments, I would guess that she thinks it isn't any of his/her business. Now, if that's not the question that you are asking, I don't understand it either.

Based on Min's previous comments, I'd have to agree with you that she'd come to the same conclusion, "that it is wrong"

And if she did believe "that it is wrong", then I'd ask her about Kerry's comments that 8247 brought up.
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Dwayne
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Apr 11 2004, 02:51 PM
Well 8247, thanks for the explanation. As a Canadian I can hardly be expected to know what has happened at every political speech that has been made during the campaign.

As for Dwayne, must I explain everything? :P

I am not talking about political situations

I am talking about people being discriminated against in thier personal lives due to thier political affiliations and basically being forced, in some situations to join the "correct" party. I am not even ascertaining that the stories are true. However they came from 2 different posters and showed the partisanship being used for the wrong reasons from more then one party. If these stories are true then I think Americans should be ashamed.

And you should know by now that I am not anti-American.

:kiss:

Absolutely sweety, you must explain everything and assume I don't understand.

:P

I'm kidding of course, but what right does Kerry have to demand a persons political affiliation when responding to questions?

Just how is it relevent?
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ds9074
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Well he can ask but the person can always reply "thats my business, now answer the question Mr Kerry".
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Dwayne, you are right in that he has no need to ask. He may have felt that the question posed to him was hostile and this was his response.

As DS9074 said, they didn't need to answer. And as 8247 said, he could have used the opportunity better. :unsure:

With that said, you haven't commented on the scenarios presented by Surok and Doctortobe.
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Minuet
Apr 11 2004, 04:53 PM
Dwayne, you are right in that he has no need to ask. He may have felt that the question posed to him was hostile and this was his response.

As DS9074 said, they didn't need to answer. And as 8247 said, he could have used the opportunity better. :unsure:

With that said, you haven't commented on the scenarios presented by Surok and Doctortobe.

Actually, I'm glad that Kerry reacted the way he did. I hope he does it some more. Remember when he cussed out one of his bodyguards who accidently knocked him over while he was skiing? I hope he punches a heckler. Let the idiot single handedly make Bush's win a slam dunk.
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Maybe he had better pay closer attention to Dean's implosion before reacting so harshly...
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Personally I would like to see Kerry win but to be honest he isnt that inspiring. I think the Democrats could have done with an American Tony Blair. To see Blair v Bush debates on domestic issues would be a treat.
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Dwayne
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Apr 11 2004, 04:53 PM
With that said, you haven't commented on the scenarios presented by Surok and Doctortobe.

Sorry, I had no comments on that.
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