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Time to come clean
Topic Started: Apr 10 2004, 07:45 AM (876 Views)
Wichita
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Minuet
Apr 10 2004, 10:47 PM
Ok, I stand corrected.

I did previously understand that you did have to be registered by one of the parties in order to vote, and 8247's comments seemed to go along with that (since the primaries are over and he is just changing his registration now)


I believed that he moved since the last general election which would require he register again. With John Edwards at least appearing to be a sure thing and Bush being a sure thing in the South Carolina primaries, he may not have seen a pressing need to register up till now.
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DS9074, we have independant candidates at all levels as well. My point was that at the local level we do not have party politics at all.
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Apr 10 2004, 10:59 PM
DS9074, we have independant candidates at all levels as well. My point was that at the local level we do not have party politics at all.

Thats interestings, so who controls say your local Government. Is it done on a committee system or something like that?

(Sorry know this is going off topic)
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^^

That's not really Off-Topic. Undoubtedly this thread soon will be talking about the North Korean nuclear arsenal, but we aren't that far off track yet. ;)
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^^^ I guess you could call it a committee system. Within the city we have various wards and representatives from each ward sit on council.

I think it is good to leave party politics out of the local level of government. These people have to take care of mundane, but ultimately important issues that affect everyday life, such as garbage collection and local Community Centers. Partisan politics would just get in the way of getting the job done.

Ultimately many local politicians do join one of the main parties and go on to higher levels of government.
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Apr 10 2004, 11:08 PM
^^^ I guess you could call it a committee system. Within the city we have various wards and representatives from each ward sit on council.

I think it is good to leave party politics out of the local level of government. These people have to take care of mundane, but ultimately important issues that affect everyday life, such as garbage collection and local Community Centers. Partisan politics would just get in the way of getting the job done.

Ultimately many local politicians do join one of the main parties and go on to higher levels of government.

Under our system you have Executives and Councils. Similar to the distinction between Executive and Legislative Branches of central Government. The results of election to the full Council determines which party controls the Executive.

I can see how at the most local level of Government getting rid of party politics could be benefical. I would say at the primary level though, were authorities are dealing with education, social services, highways etc that there should be some party influence.
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Whether or not parties are involved at a local level varies in California. Smaller communities, such as I live in, do not have party affiliation declared. Though often times it is still not hard to figure out where a local representative's (mayor, city councilman or county supervisor) affiliation lies. Instead more generic terms such as conservative, liberal, progressive, and moderate are likely to be bandied about. Interestingly, many will often suggest themselves to be representative of a "common sense" approach. :loling:
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representative of a "common sense" approach


I'm not a believer in common sense. To give the classic example, common sense in the middle ages said the Earth was A. Flat and B. The centre of the Universe. Luckly a few great minds had enough "uncommon sense" to work out that those claims were wrong.

Life is too complicated to let common sense rule.

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ds9074
Apr 10 2004, 07:18 PM
I can see how at the most local level of Government getting rid of party politics could be benefical. I would say at the primary level though, were authorities are dealing with education, social services, highways etc that there should be some party influence.

Education and Social Services are Provincial responsibilities and therefore party politics is involved. As to roads, highways are Provincial responsibility, but local roads are taken care of by local government.
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I still have to re-register, I acually registered as Republican many who found ourd out I did w very upset because I voted for a President who would try to do what he thought was right. I never regreted voting for Bush as my first ever national election of a President. I will vote for him again as an Independent even though I am more lendenad to ABs views and ideals of the country.
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I'm in the slightly unusual position of having two votes. I can vote in the local election in both my home town and my university town. Sadly it doesnt extend to national elections :no: ;) although I do get to choose which constituency I would like to vote in. Pre-WW2 once graduated I would have qualified for a double vote. Nice, but not democratic.
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I'm a registered Democrat. Why? Because of the two major parties in Oklahoma, the Republicans usually have one sided votes in the primaries. I figure that I will vote on issues depending on how I see the matter and for primaries I will pick whatever Democratic candidate I feel is more moderate. Given the past Dem primaries, I have a lot more say about who is going to the general elections for Governor, Representatives, and President.
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Hello Everyone! I'm new to the board and find your topics and opinions very interesting. I'm going to fess up. I'm a registered democrat but I don't vote along party lines. I like to listen and evaluate for myself. There is one thing I would like to interject into this discussion. Bush and Kerry have a lot more in common than you all think.

I'm glad some of you aren't "hard core" and are open to change.

As a registered Democrat, I can't get overly excited about John Kerry. Loss of life is depressing. This is how shallow I am at this point: If Bush promises to get a manned mission to Mars and reinvigorate the space program, then I'll vote for him. It's about time we made TREK and DEEP SPACE a reality. :thud:

Like I said..... shallow :)
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Apr 10 2004, 02:58 PM
Regardless of what party you are registered for, there was never any doubt in my mind that you were on the conservative side. So in that regards, no big surprise.


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As far as the other differences such as decency, and morals like gay marriage issues, and everything Howard Stern stands for, well..I guess I just grew up.

I would like you to expound on this if you will. Because right now, my impression is that you think Democrats aren’t decent and moral, and are somehow the party for the immature…or heck I don’t know what you are saying.

I didnt have time to think this post out before I left for work this morning. I've found that most of the left wing such as people who view Stern, and Hollywood's attempts to offend everyone at the drop of the hat are usually democrats. You dont usually hear a conservative going to bat for someone like Stern. I wasnt saying that Democrats are immoral or immature. I just didnt have time to completely think out what I was trying to say. Sorry about that.
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Apr 10 2004, 05:47 PM
Ok, I stand corrected.

I did previously understand that you did have to be registered by one of the parties in order to vote, and 8247's comments seemed to go along with that (since the primaries are over and he is just changing his registration now)

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In the UK all you have to do is be on the register of electors. You can vote for whoever you wish. In some elections, such as for local Government, where there is more than one councillor per ward for example, you could vote for different parties in the same election.


In Canada you do not have to belong to a political party to run in municipal (local) elections. Some municipal candidates, but not all, do have affiliations at the provincial and federal levels, but there are no parties at the municipal level.

I've moved quite a few times over the past few years. I havent re registered because after 4 years, I still have a Florida drivers lisence. :whistle:

I'm doing it now, because I plan to stay right down the interstate from 24 for more than a few months. :D
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