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Bush Jr's politics; Fear and Paranoia
Topic Started: Apr 10 2004, 07:32 AM (193 Views)
somerled
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:loling: :rotfl:

from Bush'e politics of fear.

This is apt:
WMDs can't be found.

ps Howard is still trying same game here in Australia and refused to admit he and his cronnies were wrong - he'd dug himself into such a deep hole he can't climb out - a bit like the Bush's and Rumsfelds exit strategy (ie non-existant).
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Admiralbill_gomec
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What a pantload.
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Fesarius
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Oddest thing. I saw the title of the thread, and I knew that it had to have been begun by either one of two posters. I guessed correctly! Sorry if I didn't contribute anything worthwhile to this thread. :)
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Minuet
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^^^What are you supposed to contribute to a thread that says nothing to begin with?
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Fesarius
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LOL! Correct. :)
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24thcenstfan
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Now that is funny...stupid, but funny! :lol:
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somerled
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Sorry folks - I spotted that stuff and was sure you'd get a laugh out of it - whether you like or support Bush or not.
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anon_persona
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Here is a speech I gave at undergrad in January 2001:

- Supporters of the UN should advocate an invasion of Iraq because of
1. The Saddam Regime’s use and obvious ownership of chemical weapons,
2. The Saddam Regime’s continuing violation of human rights,
3. The Saddam Regime’s violation of trade embargos,
4. The Saddam Regime’s refusal to admit Un inspectors, and
5. The Saddam Regime’s encouragement of terrorist activities,
all of which violate UN resolutions and most of which are grounds for a UN-backed invasion of Iraq

- Democracy advocates should hate the Saddam Regime for completely controlling elections and giving no citizens any voice – and hardly any rights

- Anti-anti Semitics should hate the Saddam Regime for his desire to kill all Jews and his history of sending Scuds into Israel

- Anti-terror advocates should hate the Saddam Regime for supporting Al Qaeda terrorists as well as sponsoring, harboring, and leading its own army of terrorists in activities against Iran, Kuwait, Israel, and the Western Powers

- Humanitarians should hate the Saddam Regime for permitting the torture of its over 600 Kuwaiti, Indian, Syrian, Lebanese, Iranian, Egyptian, Bahraini, Omani, and American, yes American prisoners

- Anti-Capital punishment advocates should hate the Saddam Regime for at least 1,500 political executions

- Environmentalists should hate the Saddam Regime for its ecoterror activities including dumping millions of barrels – that’s barrels not gallons – of oil into the Persian Gulf and the lighting of Kuwaiti oil pumps on fire burning millions more unrefined gallons of oil, not to mention its use of chemical warfare and obvious attempts to obtain biological and nuclear capabilities

- Minority rights activists should hate the Saddam Regime for not just its suppression of the Kurdish minority but the outright genocide Saddam has attempted to commit in Kurdistan

- Human Rights activists should hate the Saddam Regime for using chemical weapons to kill thousands of Kurds in an attempt at genocide

- Women’s Rights activists should hate the Saddam Regime for allowing women to be raped and murdered in front of their husbands as some sick form of punishment

- Children’s Rights advocates should hate the Saddam Regime the forced labor of children, the conscription of children as young as 10-years old into the military against those childrens’ wills, and endorsing the rapes and murders of children in front of their parents as some sick, twisted form of punishment

End Speech

I also recommend the following website:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/black-sheep/uday-hussein/
Caution - it is not for the faint of heart - it describes some of the stuff Saddam's son Uday did - simple ghastly.

The ONLY one you have a problem with is part 1 of point 1? And considering EVERYONE in the UN admitted he had chemical weapons - Hans Blix, Chirac, etc. - I don't know how you can complain. Clinton admitted he had them, Dems admitted he had them. I'm not sure ANYONE thought Saddam didn't have them prior to May 2002.

Can you still argue against the war? If so, I'd appreciate you'd argue all the points, not just the one that you find convenient or weakest, as I believe ALL of these are justification for war, save the environmental one.

For example, if you were to argue that global warming exists I'd say this past winter's record lows in the NE would be proof positive global warming doesn't exist. You might come back with loads of statistics. I would say "but you haven't addressed the record lows in the NE yet." One factual anomaly does not an argument make ... or break, particularly considering that:
1. Hindsight is 20/20 and no one thought the WMDs didn't exist prior to the invasion, and;
2. WMDs are one small factor in a slew of others, each of which is enough for war. ONLY if ALL are proven wrong should the war not happen.

Understood?
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