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| Ted Kennedy's Speech: Treason or disagreement? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 6 2004, 11:18 AM (2,099 Views) | |
| Dandandat | Apr 6 2004, 12:06 PM Post #16 |
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Time to put something here
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Don’t worry about it, I don’t think TK is lying ether. I think like most people who say this, he’s just being stupid. The war in Iraqi is a new type of war and is nothing like anything we have seen before. Its not like Vietnam or WW2 even if I can make comparisons on a small scale between the two (Vietnam or WW2). In the big picture they are so dissimilar its laughable to even mention it. |
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| Dandandat | Apr 6 2004, 12:08 PM Post #17 |
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Time to put something here
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I wonder how much the bush administration pay JOE ROCHE to write this. |
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| ImpulseEngine | Apr 6 2004, 12:10 PM Post #18 |
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Actually, I think the dissimilarities outweigh the similarities by so much that I wouldn't personally say Iraq is like Vietnam. But then I don't think Ted meant to say they are exactly the same anyway. He is campaigning and I interpret his meaning to be that they have some similar bad points. There are valid arguments for and against that conclusion. That's why I wouldn't call it lying. |
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| Wichita | Apr 6 2004, 12:11 PM Post #19 |
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The Adminstrator wRench
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Inherent in comparing Iraq to Vietnam successfully is knowing something about Iraq AND Vietnam. Fred didn't appear to know much about either. Were I to actually comment on this thread
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| ImpulseEngine | Apr 6 2004, 12:12 PM Post #20 |
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Wichita, Feel free to exclude Fred from consideration if it makes you feel better. |
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| Wichita | Apr 6 2004, 12:14 PM Post #21 |
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Can I exclude Ted, too? He's conveniently overlooking a few points about Vietnam as well.
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| ImpulseEngine | Apr 6 2004, 12:15 PM Post #22 |
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Give some people an inch...
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| Wichita | Apr 6 2004, 12:17 PM Post #23 |
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^^^
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| Minuet | Apr 6 2004, 12:27 PM Post #24 |
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Fleet Admiral Assistant wRench, Chief Supper Officer
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Well, I am not about to get into this argument, but wow - both Impulseengine and Admiralbill are familiar with my local newspaper!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Dwayne | Apr 6 2004, 01:06 PM Post #25 |
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Finally ... something I can agree with you on. |
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| Dwayne | Apr 6 2004, 01:18 PM Post #26 |
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gomec is refering to Ted "hiccup" Kennedy's January 14th, 2004 speech at the Mayflower Hotel. gomec, I think you'll like some of my response to that old drunk. |
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| Dwayne | Apr 6 2004, 01:21 PM Post #27 |
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Please do name those similar bad points. I'm all eyes (since I have to read it instead of hear it) |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Apr 6 2004, 01:27 PM Post #28 |
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Just call me "Bill" Everyone else does... |
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| Fesarius | Apr 6 2004, 01:28 PM Post #29 |
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^^^ LOL--but don't call him Gomer!
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| 24thcenstfan | Apr 6 2004, 01:58 PM Post #30 |
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No it is not treason. It is flamboyant disagreement. In regards to this being Bush’s Vietnam, that could mean any number of things. He may not be referring strictly about the number of casualties. Kennedy could be referring to the fact that we invaded a sovereign nation, and now we are going to be there militarily for a long time rooting out terrorists/stabilizing the nation (with little end in sight in spite of sovereignty being handed over to the Iraqi gov’t on June 30). A year later and the fighting is still going on…(e.g. Fallujah). In regards to Bush’s credibility…well how far off is Kennedy on this one? With Bush’s motivations for going into Iraq being called into question, I would say yes Bush has a credibility problem right now. Rice testifying this Thursday is one way the Administration is attempting to regain that credibility. “Kennedy attacked the administration on the war in Iraq, a war he has said was predicated on a fraud devised to help Republicans in the 2002 and 2004 elections and divert attention from "the administration's deceptions here at home." LINK Overall, most people know that Kennedy is a bit of a loud mouth. It will be up to Kennedy to back up his statements. If he can’t then everyone will know he is a liar. |
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