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So, What Would Picard Have Done?
Topic Started: Mar 16 2004, 08:05 PM (201 Views)
Hoss
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What would Picard have done (differently) had he been stranded in the Delta quadrant?

If he was on a Galaxy class ship he would've been in a better position with greater resources I suppose.

Big decisions Janeway made:
Destroy the caretaker array in the interest of protecting the Ocampans and keeping the technology away from the Kazons even though it meant stranding the crew in the Delta quadrant. I think that Picard would've done about the same.

Made the Maquis part of the crew including First Officer and Chief Engineer. I am not as sure that Picard would have followed suit. Janeway truely needed the Maquis as so many of her crew were killed so who knows. Picard seemed to hold duty and honor in high regard and it might have seemed to him that the Maquis had sacrificed this for the purpose of selfish desires, by putting their desires to live in Cardasian space above the peace between the Feds and Cards.

Attempt to traverse Borg space. Picard probably wouldn't have wanted to take the long way 'round either.

Make a deal with the Borg to help defeat Species 8472 in exchange for safe passage. The prime directive may have gotten in Picard's way. I am not sure. He may have actually offered to help 8472.

Janeway came back in time to save Voyager. Hmmmm..... Thoughts?
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I really don't think Picard would have helped the Borg. Though he might have cut a deal with Q to get everybody home safe and sound... :chin: :seesaw:
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Voyager broke the Prime Directive when they destroyed the Array. Means they are not to interfer with pre-warp races or races with barely no technology.

Captain Picard on the other hand would've ened up leaving Kes on Ocompia because he doesn't tollerate children and she was pretty childish. Picard would've fought the Kazon and destroyed those vessels and got themselves home.
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Assuming Picard was commanding Enterprise-D, he would hav had familes on board as well. I am not sure how this might have affected his decision making process...
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Yeah, seeing as how he seems to have this obsession with the Prime Directive (except when it suits him), he probably would have left the array in place and taken the Enterprise home.

If he had done the right thing however and was forced into a long journey, then I don't know about his chances for success. The Enterprise wasn't a warship like Voyager was. Also, with a ship that big, managing resources would have been all the more harder then it was for the smaller Intrepid class.
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Apples to Oranges comes to mind, however they are both fruit.
Voyager was so written as TNG was I will argue that Picard could supplant janeway exactly with the same decisions. Our hero whips ass as the Captain.
It would be fun though to break down certain episodes. Crafting a deal with the Borg was a cunning idea, it is suggested here that it was also dishonorable.
Picard was quite cunning as well! Wonderful hypothetical stuff. Good for a novel or two! :yes:
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Would destroying the caretaker array have violated the Prime Directive?

The Caretaker attacked first by bringing the Voyager accross the galaxy and abducting its crew. The Kazon attacked the Federation, therefore leaving the technology in place would invite them to use it to attack the Federation again.

I think that destroying the array did not contradict general order number 1.
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38957
Mar 16 2004, 09:38 PM
Would destroying the caretaker array have violated the Prime Directive?

I believe the writers are the real prime directive, they dispatch this law at their convenience as they do with time travel as well. Interference is inevitable and survival is paramount, thus the prime directive is a nice policy in the books, but impossible to sustain in the field. A Captain's duty should be first to the survival of his ship and crew.
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Jagalom Shaarek
Mar 16 2004, 06:26 PM
Crafting a deal with the Borg was a cunning idea, it is suggested here that it was also dishonorable.
Picard was quite cunning as well! Wonderful hypothetical stuff. Good for a novel or two! :yes:

You have to remember how much Picard hates the Borg. His initial response to Hugh in "I, Borg" and his reaction in ST: First Contact. Making a deal with Borg would not have been something Picard would have done easily. If at all...
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I think Picard may have split the crew, joined the Marquis on a M class planet and settled down to live out his days. He was too old to realistically expect to be alive in 70 years when they originally thought they would reach home.

It depends on who was killed in th pilot - If it was the Ent -D taken by the caretaker and Riker,Data,Geordi or Troi had survived, then he would never had made a Marquis first officer. If it was simply Picard in charge of Voyager then I think the ship would have been destroyed at some stage becuase he was a little more cautious than Janeway, and he probably would have sent Seven back to the Borg with a virus ;) :P .

The problem I have with Endgame is I never believed Janeway would risk changeing events of the past like she did , let alone Picard - she could have gotten all the crew killed.


Any way , really good topic 38957 :clap:
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I don't know if Picard would've settled down immediately. Maybe after he got older. He didn't seem to be ready to leave Starfleet, even at the end of Nemesis. But maybe after a few seasons, er I mean years in the Delta quadrant.

I don't think that dealing with the Borg was dishonorable, but rather far too risky. I don't see how they can be expected to adhere to any contract. Janeway's solution was to withhold information to 'keep the Borg honest'.

Maybe Picard could have contacted the Cytherians to reprogram Barclay again so he could modify the ship to go across the Galaxy in a day. :P

Did Janeway act out of character in end game by risking a change to the timeline? She certainly had a long history of jacking with timelines. Seven was dead, Tuvok was terribly ill, was Chakotay dead too (I can't remember). So she might have thought it more important to try to save them if she could've, sort of to bring completion to her mission. Also, part of her plan was to destroy the Borg hub. Perhaps the Borg had gotten much stronger and seriously threatened the Alpha quad in her future so that was another reason to go back.

Good question.
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Jagalom Shaarek
Mar 17 2004, 03:26 AM
Apples to Oranges comes to mind, however they are both fruit.
Voyager was so written as TNG was I will argue that Picard could supplant janeway exactly with the same decisions. Our hero whips ass as the Captain.
It would be fun though to break down certain episodes. Crafting a deal with the Borg was a cunning idea, it is suggested here that it was also dishonorable.
Picard was quite cunning as well! Wonderful hypothetical stuff. Good for a novel or two! :yes:

As I recall Star Trek Armada played out this idea. I never complted the game because at the time I was due for a new computer. Only now replaying the game. So far I am killing Cardassians as we speak.
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