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| Doctor's Orders - Offical review thread; ***Warning Spoilers*** | |
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| Minuet | Feb 18 2004, 04:45 PM Post #1 |
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Well, on to our next original episode. Or is it - the trailers seem very reminisent of an old Voyager episode (sorry, I don't know the title of the episode) Will this be a good episode? Or is there a curse on episodes with the word "Doctor" in them (Dear me, I couldn't resist that one! )See you all after the show tonight! |
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| 24thcenstfan | Feb 18 2004, 08:55 PM Post #2 |
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Well nothing like a good old remake to kick start your evening. If you slap the Voyager theme music onto tonight’s episode of Doctor’s Orders…we could have been watching Voyager episode One all over again (with relatively few changes). B&B must really be running out of ideas now. The differences being: 1. The role reversal. T’Pol maintained control of her senses (until the end) and the Doctor didn’t. On One, the Doctor was cool-headed because he was a hologram and Seven did all of the hallucinating. 2. And then of course was the fact that Phlox was hallucinating T’Pol (she was actually comatose like the rest). On the One, Seven had the real company of the Doctor part of the time. However, this was very similar to Seven hallucinating the alien that hailed her to strike up a trade and other crew members. 3. Instead of a nebula (VOY) it is a trans-dimensional disturbance (ENT). However, the radiation from both was extremely harmful to most of the crew. Except of course Phlox, whose physiology made him relatively "immune;" and Seven, whose Borg implants allowed her to stay awake.. with hallucinations as the only side effect for both. 4. Instead of stasis (VOY) it is called sleep/coma (ENT). 5. Instead of 1 month (VOY) it was 4 days (ENT). Mainly superficial differences. In spite of the rehash, tonight’s Doctor’s Orders wasn’t half bad. It had a mildly suspenseful quality to it, and was good for a few smiles and a rolling of the eyes. -You know scenes like Phlox walking around the ship butt naked (much like a goofy Austin Powers scene), Phlox chasing after Porthos and YUCK…Phlox’s toenails. -And finally, a TWOK Spock rip-off at the end....T'Pol telling Phlox something like, "isn't it logical to sacrifice one life for the many?" :rolleyes: I give this episode
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| Dandandat | Feb 18 2004, 09:01 PM Post #3 |
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Time to put something here
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Stupid ... Underlie stupid and I wasn’t going to say this until last second of the episode. I mean could they have picked a worse ending for this episode? It didn’t even make any sense. I give it out of
I would have give’n it .
out of
if it ended with T’pol being real.
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| Minuet | Feb 18 2004, 09:47 PM Post #4 |
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Fleet Admiral Assistant wRench, Chief Supper Officer
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Dan, I figured out halfway through that T'pol wasn't real. After all, just losing your control of your emotions should not make you a complete idiot who forgets everything you ever knew. Hell, even during his halucinations Phlox remembered everything he was taught about how to run the ship. 24 - You missed the tribute line to all the fine doctors of the past "I'm a doctor, not an engineer!" All previous doctors have used a variation of this line at one point or another (especially McCoy and The Doctor on Voyager). I believe this was a first for Phlox. It was nice to see Porthos in such a large role. I think he had more lines then Mayweather or Hoshi (he did bark a few times) Amusing, but very unoriginal. I give it
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| 24thcenstfan | Feb 18 2004, 09:56 PM Post #5 |
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Something Wicked This Fae Comes
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I know! I have been over at startrek.com and everyone seems to have picked up on the Bones reference but not the Spock reference. I remember the scene now, the line just didn’t register with me initially.
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| Wichita | Feb 18 2004, 10:13 PM Post #6 |
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I just caught the last 20 minutes - well because I ran out of things that I could do instead. J/K
I liked "bimbo" T'Pol. I don't have any idea how it fit into the rest of the program, but I actually LOL at the way Blaylock played that part of it. |
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| bonja | Feb 18 2004, 10:24 PM Post #7 |
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I abandoned Voyager shortly after they brought in Seven of Nine so I've never seen "One" and can't compare the two episodes. I liked this episode even if it was predictable. I liked the scene from the Danny Kaye movie (The Court Jester I believe.). I liked "bimbo" T'Pol as well. I liked the tribute to doctors past "I'm a doctor...". In fact, even though this was a simple story I can't complain about any part of it.
out of 5
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| Dandandat | Feb 19 2004, 08:38 AM Post #8 |
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It wasn’t the fact that t'pol was really that bothered me. It was that it didn’t flow right, and the show seemed choppy. First we see Flox getting all the training, and then T’pol shows up out of no where (which we are to believe she is real) so then it leaves one thinking “well that’s stupid why did they bother to show Flox all those things (or rather why did they act like he would be there only hope, because I’m sure they would show I’m just in case something happened to T’pol)”. So for half the show I am thinking “that’s stupid but ok”. Just when I get over it and the show starts to get into its grove, and its turning out to be a ok episode we find out that T’pol wasn’t real. This leads me to think “that’s stupid, if she wasn’t real why did Flox think she was?”. What I mean is non of his hallucinations indicated that he forgot any of the past. Yet we are to believe this one time (one of his first hallucinations – we can assume things got worse as time went by) he hallucinated T’pol and he for got he put her under? The story (like most enterprise episodes) was just written every poorly. Some examples of what I mean about he didn’t for get the past in his hallucinations. when he sees the captain, he doesn’t think its normal for archer to be up – that he was never put under. Flox thinks he was woken up some how. Remembering that he had put archer under, leaving the only explanation to be that he woke up. same thing goes for Soto. When he starts to have later hallucinations he doesn’t think they are real His other hallucinations – The Xindi, ect don’t really have a baring on this This all leads me to wonder why he though T’pol was real making it a bad episode, couple that with the fact that this was already done on voy just makes it stupid . If the writers wanted to pull this off with a more intelligent story, they should have thrown a few hallucinations in that mach the experience he was having with T’pol. For example, he could have walked onto the bridge only to find the entire bridge crew at their stations. But instead thinking he was having an hallucination, think it was normal (like they should be there and not have note been woken up) and interact with them as if they where real. After a few seconds he could relies his mistake. This (or something like it) would have added so much more credibility to the fact that T’pol was just a hallucination. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Feb 19 2004, 11:21 AM Post #9 |
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Geez, I actually sat through this dreck! While it was nice to see that Blalock has more of an acting range than "wooden characters with augmented anatomy", why would a hallucinating person see a "non-Vulcan" hallucination, especially at the end? Wouldn't it have been more "logical" to see the hallucinatory T'Pol give incorrect instructions based on nonsense, and do it straight-faced... and see the doctor realize that his own mind is causing him to err? Star of the show: Porthos. I'm more and more convinced that the only reason the Phlox character was cast was for comic relief. Why not a "real" human doctor, rather than the stereotypical "you simple humans haven't reached our level of evolution" alien that B&B favor. Dump Phlox, bring on ANYBODY... hell, bring on Alan Alda. I give this episode one out of five. I would have dipped lower, but the doggie did well! |
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| Jmkeepingca | Feb 20 2004, 12:58 PM Post #10 |
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Well let me see where to begin... You know what? I actually laughed out loud at this episode! There were times when Phlox and T'Pol actually made some pretty good funnies ( like in engineering ) that made me laugh. Evene though it was a re-hash of One from Voyager, it was still not that bad an episode. By the way, anybody who didn't pick up on T'Pol not being real when she decided to not eat... well come on! Didn't anybody see The Sixth Sense? It was clearly done the same way. Like when she refused the phase-pistol, and when she never ate, and there was no physical contact between her and Phlox, oh and of course the crazier Phlox got the nuttier she got... all the symbols were there. I for one thought the Austin Powers type scene was pretty funny. It was nice seeing Porthos again, but its a fricking shame when a dog gets more lines then human characters. I think its time for another Mayweather or Hoshi episode, or at the very least put them out of their misery! Maybe what we all have been waiting for has finally happened. Maybe Enterprise is starting to come into its own because even though the last few episodes haven't been amazingly fantastic, they have been watchable... and that may make the difference in how the season turns out. |
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| ImpulseEngine | Feb 21 2004, 01:04 AM Post #11 |
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Yawn. That about sums up my impression. I can't compare to Voyager's One because I never saw it. Good points: 1. The scene with T'Pol and Phlox looking up arguing over who was going to touch the warp engines first, ending with Phlox saying "Are you telling me to read the manual?", did get a laugh out of me. ("RTFM!" :lol:) 2. Billingsley's acting. 3. I didn't see the ending coming where T'Pol had been just Phlox's hallucination... a good point because I was surprised. Bad points: 1. I didn't see the ending coming where T'Pol had been just Phlox's hallucination... a bad point because I was too busy criticizing T'Pol's part in my mind: "This is very unrealistic that she would be acting this way and not able to do anything". While that SHOULD have tipped me off to her being just a hallucination, instead it seemed in keeping with the bad writing that has plagued this series. So I believed it. :rolleyes: 2. The storyline was just boring. 3. Apparently Phlox hadn't been monitoring T'Pol's condition since he thought she was conscious. It may be lucky she survived... 4. On the one hand we have a "naked" Phlox so now we're at least treating both sexes equally. But why do we need ANY of this... (ok, maybe it's funny to consider how relaxed a crewman can become when the higher ups can't tell. And maybe if all the nakedness throughout the series had been written in to make more sense instead of just being obvious meat displays, I might not have thought this one was so stupid.) 5. Not one single thing to contribute to the Xindi story arc. 6. Add "again" to #5. 7. Still no lines from Mayweather. 8. Hoshi had a line or two, but not really - it was just a hallucination. She wasn't exactly looking her best either. I wonder, did Phlox really need to engage Warp drive or had they really cleared the disturbance and Phlox's hallucinations made it appear that they hadn't? Trip said he did a great job, but then again maybe Phlox messed up his warp engines for nothing... I give this a out of
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out of 5
I have been over at startrek.com and everyone seems to have picked up on the Bones reference but not the Spock reference.
the line just didn’t register with me initially.

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