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| Stratagem - Official Review Thread; ***Warning Spoilers*** | |
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| Minuet | Feb 4 2004, 05:04 PM Post #1 |
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Time for our weekly complaints, errr reviews.
See you here after the show! |
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| Dandandat | Feb 4 2004, 09:11 PM Post #2 |
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Well this episode was ok, cant think of much to complain about except what is bellow I really don’t like the up beet theme it just doesn’t go with the dark edge to the show. for example in this episode you have Archer and the Xindi all disheveled trying to save them selves from an insectzoid a take. The ship they are on is dark and smoky, and you view believes they are really in this for there lives .... and then "its been a long road bal bal bla bal" all happy and go lucky. The theme would have been great if the third season was about humans getting better acquainted with space travel after the first two seasons showed them making novice mistakes. The Up beet song would match the idea that they are more confident. Oh (this really descent have much to do with this episode except it made me think about this) in the episode "Anomaly" didn’t the Osaarian say that a ship can enter the expanse but it couldn’t leave (which is why they where stuck there and turned to attaching other people) so why is it that the Andorrans entered and left no problem? |
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| 24thcenstfan | Feb 4 2004, 09:27 PM Post #3 |
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This was a decent episode. Pros ---The elaborate charade to trick Degra was definitely a more creative and proactive attempt to discover the location of the construction site for the Xindi super weapon. IMO, most of this season has seemed like one reactionary move after another. I can appreciate some attempt by the crew to actually carryout a plan to obtain something more substantial than the identity and motivations of the Xindi. Too bad there is one more “final leg” to (can’t remember the name) Prime to find the Xindi weapon. Cons ---This episode was obviously designed to showcase Bakula’s acting. However, I can’t say that I am anymore impressed now than I was two weeks ago. Overall, I am still not that impressed with Bakula in the character of Archer. ---I am still having a difficult time getting past this entire Enterprise Season 3. There has been an element of surrealism about this whole Xindi arc. It doesn’t help that the Big Red Cosmic Reset Button is going to be pushed at the end of this season (and worse we know that it is going to happen). It also doesn’t help that the Xindi arc is being stretched out for 24 (?) episodes, many of which included several bizarre stops along the way (unnecessary filler). Extinction, Impulse, North Star, Similitude, Chosen Realm…all filler episodes in the Season 3 Xindi arc. Now if we were on the natural timeline and Enterprise were exploring the universe, then the abovementioned episodes would make more sense (to me). Not to say a couple of these weren’t half decent episodes…they just do not fit into the scheme of things right now. ---- > It’s all very surreal. General Questions/Comments ---What is the deal with these sub-space vortexes? Is this a low tech way of describing wormhole manipulation? The only other time I hear sub-space mentioned is when ships want to send communications to other entities (worlds, ships, etc.). ---Has anyone else found themselves singing along to that idiotic theme song, “Faith of the Heart?” I can’t stand that song, but some strange force just takes over and I start singing away. Overall, I give this episode
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| bonja | Feb 4 2004, 09:32 PM Post #4 |
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Either the earlier line was forgotten or the Andorians had better ships. On to the episode... I agree, it was ok... a bit reminiscent of an old "Mission:Impossible". There's not much more to say. I was surprised that Archer didn't bother to ask Degra who the Xindi's information source was... or maybe I'm not considering the logic in some of stories this year. 3
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but only because Travis saved the ship.
I was glad to see the coming attractions shown but very concerned about what was shown... but if it draws in the people tuning in for the models I guess it will do. |
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| KiraAnara | Feb 5 2004, 12:25 AM Post #5 |
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It was never said if they left the Expanse. All we heard was that they were last seen limping away at impulse. And we've had many filler episodes in DS9's arc. It's hard to have straight arc, arc, arc, and nothing to balance that. It would really turn people away. I'm glad they finally showed the previews again. I hated not seeing them. I guess it's because of sweeps. I liked this episode a lot. It was pretty good. So it's a showcase for acting, but so was "Twilight," and that didn't make it any less good. I personally am liking Bakula as Archer this season. I liked the scams they pulled off, especially that final one to prove the coordinants were accurate. Priceless. I give it an A, or
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| 24thcenstfan | Feb 5 2004, 12:48 AM Post #6 |
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My point was, B&B are unnecessarily stretching the Xindi arc out over a whole season when the arc could have easily played itself out within one or two months. In the meantime we are being subjected to a bunch of filler that does little to add to this Xindi themed season. Sure DS9 had the war with the Dominion, but the viewer (at least myself) never got the impression that the “filler” episodes were actually filler. But instead were substantive stories, carefully woven into (contributed greatly) the overall Dominion theme. In my opinion, Season 3 is a chopped up, not very well thought out collection of lackluster tales...there is very little storytelling going on. |
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| KiraAnara | Feb 5 2004, 01:52 AM Post #7 |
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That's your opinion. But many of those so called "filler" episodes did have a point, because many of them contain at least a little bit of something that is important to the plot. Are we supposed to have half a season straight of Xindi? It would be odd to have it half and half. In "Impulse," we learned about the alloy that kept the ships from being affected by the anomolies. "Chosen Realm" faces them with religious freaks that delete their information. It kind of ties in because these people worship the spheres. "Similitude" dealt with a moral issue, which is always welcomed in Trek. "Extinction" was a fun episode, as was "North Star." If there is another season, I would like them to go back to those people, to tie it in with the overall show. |
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| Wichita | Feb 5 2004, 07:02 AM Post #8 |
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I missed portions of the episode last night so they may have explained this .... Were they looking for the site of the actual weapon or were they looking for yet another prototype? If they destroy this one, what stops the Xindi from simply building another? |
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| gdog243 | Feb 5 2004, 12:35 PM Post #9 |
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Well, I'm called Stratagem the best episode of the season. We havn't had that in a while, and I was plesently surprised with what I saw. I heard this was Mike Sussman's show. If the rumors are true, than they should fire Rick Berman, and bring in Sussman to be the head guy. Throughout the series, he has really impressed me, and it seems like he has a grasp on how to make a great story. I've been impressed with all his episodes. Anyway, before I get to my review, I have been reading that this show was like Mission Impossible. Well, I havn't seen MI so what I say here is on that basis. This was a great original episode. We got to learn more about the Xindi, and more about Degra. I can't say I like Degra as a villan yet, because I havn't seen much of him, but he did please me last night. I also like that the writers finally twisted the show around. Everyone got something to do (Even travis, even though he still didn't speak. ) and there was some sharp dialoge. I was surprised at the end, and that is a rare occurence.Also, the major strangth of this episode was that it really did a great job setting up another episode in the future. When I first heard about Azati Prime I was so looking foward to it. I read what was about and figured, hay, this might be a big episode in the Xindi story. (I refuse to call it an Arc, because it isn't) All the hints of last night now makes me look foward to it more. I can't wait till march. I only had one major gripe about the show last night. Again, the writers have a missed-opportunity to go into WHAT THE THREAT IS. Whenever I hear a Xindi talk about a human threat, I just have to laugh because I still don't know what the threat is. According to Future Guy, the Xindi's homeworld is distroyed by humanity a few hundred years into the future. Than in "The Xindi" we find out that the Homeworld is already distoried. Than in "The Shipment" we find out that the Instectizoids and Reptilians distoryed the homeworld. I know this is TCW manipulation, but my patience is running thin damn it. If anyone is reading this that works for enterprise, or has inside sources, WHAT THREAT? Grade: A- Good work Guys. |
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| Dandandat | Feb 5 2004, 01:07 PM Post #10 |
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In last nights episode, Degra said that before they where engaged in dealing with the human threat, all the Xindi had come together after years of hostiles to find a new Xindi home world to replace the one that was destroyed in their war agents each other. We can assume this is the world they are trying to protect from the human threat even though it doesn’t exist yet, some day it will, and maybe depending on whether the they where told the truth or not humans will destroy it (how is still a mistory). So at this point in time there is no Xindi home world. |
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| gdog243 | Feb 5 2004, 02:10 PM Post #11 |
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Ok, I must of missed that part, or not remembered. That does make some sense. It also gives some backround on the season. Maybe the next few episodes will save Enterprise after all, if last night was any indication.
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| Minuet | Feb 5 2004, 02:16 PM Post #12 |
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I have to say that I did enjoy the twists and turns of last nights episode. The crew actually came together and pulled off a scam. They still don't have the chemistry of some of the other Star Trek crews. The other crews came across on screen as able to pull off these types of scams while flying by the seat of thier pants, where the Enterprise crew still seems stiff and like they didn't really know what they were doing. For example, Archer pulling T'pol aside to "write" the story, because he couldn't do it himself. I miss the days when a glance was all it took for the crew to communicate with each other. I was happy to see the Xindi story moved along for one reason - hopefully it is getting closer to it's conclusion!! Enough already. B&B are adamant that this is not an alternate timeline, therefore the cosmic reset button has to be coming soon. Let's get it over with and get back to real Star Trek exploration already.
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| 24thcenstfan | Feb 5 2004, 02:21 PM Post #13 |
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Wichita, They were looking for the site of the actual superweapon. Supposedly, the crew is now just one more planet away from getting the information they need to find the consruction site of the weapon. Hopefully, this means the Xindi arc will be wrapped up in the next few episodes. ![]() Edit: Just looked at the episode guide and the Xindi arc is being stretched to the end of the season. Also, looks like next weeks Harbinger is going to showcase an explosion of emotions/feelings among the senior crewmembers. Yippeeeee! That and there is going to be a 6-week gap between Azati Prime and the Season Finale. <_< |
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| Fesarius | Feb 5 2004, 03:15 PM Post #14 |
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^^^ Yeah, Harbinger is supposed to showcase the tensions between the MACOs and Reed, I believe. I think that is the B story.
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| gdog243 | Feb 5 2004, 03:38 PM Post #15 |
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Great, they say they want an Arc, they set up one of the biggest, and probably the best episodes of the season, and next week we get more T&A. Screw Harbinger, give me "Azati Prime." :angry: I did check the schedule, we get Prime in March, and then there is a huge gap before the next episode. I thought this was supposed to be an "Arc." :rolleyes: |
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out of 5

) and there was some sharp dialoge. I was surprised at the end, and that is a rare occurence.
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