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Enterprise: Change of direction; what do you think...?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2004, 12:39 PM (407 Views)
Jmkeepingca
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I was just thinking about this as a chnage of direction for ENT.

Okay, we all know that the conflict with the Xindi is coming to a head probably sooner then later.

Well how about this ( and this will answer a lot of plot holes in what we have seen so far too without messing with continuity )...

The conflict with the Xindi is over and Enterprise has fulfilled her mission buy destroying the Xindi weapon and the connection between The Xindi and Humanity is made clear. The two species realize they have been duped into this war and decide to leave each other alone... for good ( no more Xindi!!! ).

However, the final battle with the Xindi has left Enterprise broken and crippled deep within The Delphic Expanse... possibly even with only minimal Warp drive, making their journey home a long and dangerous one. But in the final scene of season three we see Captain Archer give the command to start home.

When season four starts it starts with a simple phrase... "10 years later" and we see Enterprise ( with some hodge-podge pieces of machinery attached to her ) fly out of The Delphic Expanse and immediately resume contact with Starfleet to everyones amazement. Admiral Forrest comes onto the viewscreen saying they thought Enterprise had been destroyed. Enterprise is then escorted back to Earth where the crew is given medical treatment, and slowly the ship is upgraded and repaired.

During this re-fit and rest time, Admiral Forrest tells Archer of a new threat looming on the horizon. One he is directly responsible for. 12 years ago he accidently violated the space of a soverign race called The Romulans, who have launched "probing attacks" against earth colonies and convoys throughout the Galaxy. Now, the Earth Starfleet, the Vulcan High Command and The Andorian Imperial Guard are all working together in loose collaboration to ferret out these Romulans ( of course the Romulan / Vulan connection is never revealed ) and prevent them from attacking their people.

Of course Archer is stunned by this, but it is explained that Commander Shran told of the great deeds done by Archer which led to peace talks with the Vulcans, which eventually led to a loose co-operative union between the three species. Not quite The United Federation of Planets as we know it... but getting there.

So I dunno... that seem to be one way to bring the formation of the UFP and the Romulan War into the fold. I know another season of War Stories is not something we want to see already, but seeing the Xindi War is not something we wanted to see at all, its something that could be considered.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Very nice treatment, JM.

It has definite possibilities, but I think that it would be too "cerebral" for B&B. They'd probably just say "Ten Years Later," add a bunch of geegaws from Voyager to Enterprise, have Trip and T'Pol married (and look, the first Vulcan-Human hybrid baby), and make Hoshi the new sexpot. Oh, and they'd replace Porthos with a mutt called "Bedford", which is also the name of Trip/T'Pol's baby, and also the name of the engine room.
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Jmkeepingca
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Thanks AdmiralBill...

I forgot to mention one thing though... all the data and information that was collected in the Delphic Expanse has been erased from both ships systems and the crews memories.

The process was very selective. The crew knows why they are there, what they have done and that they have completed their mission, but not the details. Like they know the way home, but can't recall who the Xindi are... they just know they have defeated a threat to humanity.

You are right though... it might be a bit too cerebral for B&B. They seem to focus on the lowest common denominator ( sex and violence ) a fair amount. I think they are scared of anything that really makes a fan think... like "Chosen Realm" really was a nice episode because even though it did have violence, it focused on the differences in fundamental spiritual beliefs in societies.

Anyway, if B&B ever decide to let lose again and let fans suggest themes for shows we want to watch, that would be my pick... leave ENT in the Expanse for 10 years with no contact with Earth and then on the eve of what we know as the birth of the Federation and the Romulan War... bring them back to play a pivitol role in both events.
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Swidden
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It is as viable a way to get this series more tightly linked to the Trek timeline as any I have ever heard. I just don't see the producers doing anything like this at all. A big part of the problem with this show is that it follows a typical television formula that we have become accustomed to over the years. If the produces were ever to take the time (a week to ten days max) to review TOS and work from a similar basis, I think this show would get light-years better.
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captain_proton_au
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Yet another fan who gives an idea for a series that involves rehashing an old enemy. We've seen enough of the bloody Romulans, you do remeber the disater that was Nemesis, right! It doesnt fit with the timeline..what, we go to war with the romulans, then klingons around TOS time and then back to romulans at TNG time..lame.
Id rather Paramount hang on to BnB than have fans create series ideas.
Berman hinted at having the creation of the Federation in the last few years of Enterprise, but I hope that wont be through a single conflict/story arc but a multi threaded arc , nice and complex that we can sink our teeth into, then again not everyone bothered with the continuing arc of the dominion war. Enterprise will be doomed if we are forced to watch every episode in order to understand it.
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Jmkeepingca
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captain_proton_au
Jan 29 2004, 09:21 AM
Berman hinted at having the creation of the Federation in the last few years of Enterprise, but I hope that wont be through a single conflict/story arc but a multi threaded arc , nice and complex that we can sink our teeth into, then again not everyone bothered with the continuing arc of the dominion war.

I have to agree that after the Xindi conflict there should be no more big swooping story arcs. Yes, the stories should fit together, but they don't have to be a massive story arc just to get an understanding of whats going on.

There is one thing we have to face though and that is the "historical fact" that the Romulan War does take place soon and its the Romulan War that leads to the birth of the United Federation of Planets. That has been touched on in TOS and in TNG ( though don't ask me to recall exactly which episodes ). So if we have to sit through yet another war, lets make it at least interesting.

Keep in mind too that when B&B introduced the concept of ENT they were quite clear is saying the show is set during a very tumultous time for Earth and humanity. Its not all love and peace and Prime Directive. Humans have never travelled this far into space before, they are less then 100 years out of World War 3 - which devestated the planet, they are not driven by completely altruistic motives - such as pure exploration - yet, and there are no rules governing first contacts with other species. Sure we have seen Archer already open fire without even trying to find out what was going on. Yes, the aliens were hostile, yes they attacked first... but Picard or Janeway would have tried talking first. ( I admit Kirk and Sisko may have did what Archer did and just opened fire ).

Anyway, thats just some things to remember... this series is about change. Not for us the viewers but for the lives of the characters in the series and the lives of characters in other series and characters yet to come... and sometimes chnage can be violent.
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captain_proton_au
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I cant recall everything from TOS, but I have seen every episode of TNG umpteen times, and I dont remember any reference to a romulan war as the reason for the founding of the Federation - Tribblemom would be the best person to clarify this.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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It was TOS lore, but I'm not sure if is Roddenberry backstory, book non-canon, or from an episode.
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Cool Vulcan
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Now that Star Trek, one thing the ship is then renamed Federation. This would shut the yaps who cry their have been six ships named Enterprise.
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Jmkeepingca
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Jan 29 2004, 06:01 PM
Now that Star Trek, one thing the ship is then renamed Federation. This would shut the yaps who cry their have been six ships named Enterprise.

Huh? I think I get the post... but I have to be sure... you are saying there have been six ships named Enterprise... right?

There are actually 7...

NX-01
NCC-1701
NCC-1701-A
NCC-1701-B
NCC-1701-C
NCC-1701-D
NCC-1701-E

Renaming the Federation... huh? what? zuh? muh? gluh?

Please clarify Gabe!
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captain_proton_au
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The United Enterprise of Planets...maybe?
or perhaps...
The Federation Starship USS Federation ??? :lol: ;)
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Weyoun_10
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Yeah, I think Gabe is talking about renaming the ship, Federation - no gabe, can't be done.
The whole diea of Enterprise is reaching back even further than before to a time before writers/producers chose to stop using Enterprises in their series.
In that period, the name Enterprise is fundamental as it begins the legend of the Federation ships called Enterprise. Renaming can't be done.
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Weyoun_10
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Err, how do I delete this?
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Fesarius
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Weyoun10,

Have you ever posted here under another handle? :)
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Weyoun_10
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Erm, hand...le... don't think so, only joined an hour ago
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