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will "accelerating handover" achieve anything ?
Topic Started: Nov 13 2003, 10:18 PM (547 Views)
doctortobe
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The more complicated a plan is, the more ways it can fail. Why is GWB expected to walk on water when he can swim instead? (Hey that was good, I'd better write that down)
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Swidden
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What I don't get is where people ever got the idea that any plan gets carried out exactly as it is designed on paper. When one stops to consider the variables that are inevitably going to crop up then best that can be hoped for is that the ultimate goal can be achieved.

Clinton was given a hard time for not having an exit strategy from Bosnia. Is that place put back together right yet? Not entirely, but it is coming along (the people there might be more open and willing to following democratic principles, but the animosities that sparked the fighting are under the surface still).

There is a goal to accomplished in Iraq and that is going to require considerable work before we can even think of exiting...
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"Accelarating the Handover" or increasing the rate of "Iraqification" or whatever term is used is just putting a happy face on running away from a tough situaiton and only making things worse. Leaving Iraq now will just prove Bin Laden right, that the U.S is weak and can't stick out anything that is not as east war, where they can bomb from hundreads of miles away, this will only hurt security and embolden further attacks. Bush is right about having to stick it out for the long haul, and hopefully he remains true to this becasue anything else would be a diaster in the middle east. How exacttly one "sticks it out" is open for debate (more U.S troops, allowing more international controls, ?? etc), but there is no question that the only thing that is good for the U.S, the world, and the Irqi people is ensuring that the country is rebuilt from decades of totalitraian rules, U.S sanctions and bombing, and allowed a chance to develop into a state that can provide better lives for the Iraqi's that live there.
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somerled
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NZ - I don't think the yanks and pommies will ever leave Iraq unless they are forced to through the strength of domestic public opinion and it becomes politically imperative to do so.

Take at look at Germany, the UK, Japan - nearly 60 years after the end of hostilies (WWII) the USA still has substantial garisions in Germany, the UK and Japan.

They will stay (militarily and will dominate the country economically) for generations to come - and while ever that region is important to the economic interests and strategic interests of the USA and to a lesser extent the UK and NATO.

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Take at look at Germany, the UK, Japan - nearly 60 years after the end of hostilies (WWII) the USA still has substantial garisions in Germany, the UK and Japan.


Did you just write this misleading statement for the purposes of making a point or did you not ever hear of the Soviet Empire?

After WWII, nobody wanted a strong military in Germany or Japan, so who do you think had to defend these places?
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