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Jessie Ventura
Topic Started: Nov 11 2003, 05:59 PM (416 Views)
nztrekkie
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Admiralbill_gomec
Nov 12 2003, 10:03 PM

BTW - just so I know, you don't consider the 2000 election a landslide do you ?
No, 2000 wasn't a landslide, [INSULT DELETED BY 38957].

You just can't handle it, can you? [ANOTHER MEAN STATEMENT DELETED BY 38957].


careful bill - you don't want to be the first moderator/ topic leader or whatever, to be censured now !!
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Back from your nap so soon? It couldn't have been enough...
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Admiralbill_gomec
Nov 12 2003, 10:03 PM
Other "swing states" that went for Gore that will most likely go for Bush: Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Maine, Minnesota, Oregon, New Mexico, Iowa.

Admiralbill_gomec: you're right about Minnesota being among the states that President Bush could realistically pick up - and when we can talk about Minnesota being a swing state that the Republicans have a very realistic chance of winning, we know that the Democrats have lost one of their last strongholds. Damn. Seriously.

The Republican party is pushing hard for President Bush in Minnesota - more of a voice and more of a presence than usual. Part of this might be the spectacular resources that President Bush has - but most of it has to do with the unusually high support that President Bush enjoys in Minnesota (at this time). When I say "unusually high support" I'm comparing the level of support for President Bush compared to the usual level of support for Republican presidential candidates here in MN.
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Jessse Ventura :) too bad he never ran again. Him an Arnold could hold a summit to talk about state issues and making another Predator together.
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nztrekkie
Nov 13 2003, 01:14 AM
I think you just highlighted what separates the old style "real" politicians, of which Clinton was a recent example, from the more typically modern, "poll every question" numbers driven type today.


Clinton couldn't decide what tie to wear without checking the poll results. :lol: :lol:
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Nov 12 2003, 10:29 PM
nztrekkie
Nov 13 2003, 01:14 AM
I think you just highlighted what separates the old style "real" politicians, of which Clinton was a recent example, from the more typically modern, "poll every question" numbers driven type today.


Clinton couldn't decide what tie to wear without checking the poll results. :lol: :lol:

true, but he also had a good gut feeling for people and his audiences which he used to good effect in 92.
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nztrekkie
Nov 12 2003, 10:33 PM
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Nov 12 2003, 10:29 PM
nztrekkie
Nov 13 2003, 01:14 AM
I think you just highlighted what separates the old style "real" politicians, of which Clinton was a recent example, from the more typically modern, "poll every question" numbers driven type today.


Clinton couldn't decide what tie to wear without checking the poll results. :lol: :lol:

true, but he also had a good gut feeling for people and his audiences which he used to good effect in 92.

Not really... everything he did was based on what we call "a focus group." Stan Greenberg, Bill Clinton's pollster, even asked one focus group where Clinton should go on vacation. They decided "camping". So, in 1996, Bill Clinton went camping in Wyoming. (This was after people griped about how he spent his 1995 summer vacation in Martha's Vineyard with Walter Cronkite and Ted Danson.) Greenberg did a special focus group every January just to see who Bill Clinton should have as a "special guest" next to Hillary during the State of the Union address.
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