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| An explanation from Johnasiam about Janeway | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 28 2003, 02:41 AM (385 Views) | |
| vold | Sep 28 2003, 02:41 AM Post #1 |
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For every decision you make it has an informant amount of possibilitys. Wich is why the Federation can't court marsail Capt. Janway because wasnt the one who violated the prime directive, it was her older version that did. Just 30 sec will change a persons life. |
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| captain_proton_au | Sep 28 2003, 03:11 AM Post #2 |
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The problem most of us fans had with endgame was the fact that any janeway would not have violated the temporal prime directive so blatantly, she could have caused everyone on voyager to die.Her actions in the final episode seemed to be different to the character portrayed in the previous 7 seasons. |
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| vold | Sep 28 2003, 03:23 AM Post #3 |
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are u refering to the admiral or the captain? if the admiral, ofcourse she's different, after what she's been through & over 20 years have past. if the captain, uh I don't see anything different about her, except her normal steps to thefuture changes. Please elaborate on your meaning in "she's different" |
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| TribbleMom | Sep 28 2003, 10:22 AM Post #4 |
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Capt. Proton, I can agree with you that for the most part Janeway tried to uphold the Temporal Prime Directive as much as she possibly could. She even stated once that all the messing around back in forth in time gave her a headache trying to sort it all out. But I believe they tried to make the point in the beginnning of Endgame that Admiral Janeway had seen so much happen to certain very important members of her crew -- the ones she seemed to feel closest to -- that just didn't seem "right" to her. Tuvok's mental capacity was deteriorating (and if you've ever seen anyone suffering from Alzheimer's, then you know it's a terribly hard thing to watch someone you care for change so dramatically and lose their dignity). She also said that Chakotay was just never the same after Seven died. Those 3 people were probably the most "important" to her in her Voyager crew, and she sat back for years watching one die and the other 2 suffering, unable to do anything about it. I think in Endgame, Admiral Janeway's human compassion took over when she found there was something she could to to change what she felt was "wrong" for Seven, Chakotay, and Tuvok. Not to mention that the Admiral knew she could get the rest of her crew back home again to their loved ones all the sooner if she took action instead of doing nothing. Admiral Janeway had years of experiences that we did not have the benefit of actually seeing her go through. Perhaps those experiences changed her from the Captain Janeway that we knew on the show. After all, I'm not the same person I was 20 years ago. I would make some different choices now than I did then if I had the ability to do it over again. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Sep 28 2003, 10:40 AM Post #5 |
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I have absolutely no idea of what this thread is about... can I get a translator here? |
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| captain_proton_au | Sep 28 2003, 10:52 AM Post #6 |
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ABG - you have to watch Voyager to understand,come on, you know you want to. TM - either janeway ,would have known that by mucking with the time line she could have got everyone killed |
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| TribbleMom | Sep 28 2003, 10:59 AM Post #7 |
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Very true. I cannot argue that point. But I do believe that Admiral J. felt the timeline she was in was just somehow "wrong" and that she believed she had to do something to change it. It must have been a very strong feeling/belief for her to take such a risk. |
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| bonja | Sep 28 2003, 11:25 AM Post #8 |
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While Janeway can't be charged for Admiral Janeway's actions, she did commit numerous violations of the Prime Directive. A starship captain supposedly swears an oath to sacrifice ship and crew rather than violate the PD. She conspired with the UFP's enemy (Borg) and she murdered Mr. Tuvix. She should have been stripped of rank and sent to Elba II or Tantalus for rehab. |
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| vold | Sep 28 2003, 01:13 PM Post #9 |
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Like most captains, Janeway have bended the rules, but never broke them. If you want rule breaking, its the Captain of the Equinox you want, he broke tons of Prime Directive & rules. & when he met Janeway, instead of redeeming himself, he prefer to leave Voyager behind & go home by themself, now here shows lack in morality & ethics too. & I am aware of his situation while in the Delta Quadrant, so his actions are explained but he's throwing a lot of advantages like having 2 ships together. As for Admiral Janeway With her knowledge of the Borg, new technology & a well trained crew of Voyager, she deduced that the chance of success is very high, except for the Captain Janeway is the only thing standing in the Admiral's way. Because of the captain's thinking of helping the galaxy by getting rid of the hub rather then using it to get home. Unless The Admiral tells her the futures losses if she destroy the hub. [Her family, her crew over 16 will die] |
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