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| benetil | Sep 24 2003, 10:24 PM Post #31 |
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I try very hard not to vote for Republican or Democratic candidates - I despise the strangle hold that the two major political parties have on our government. Last Presidential election, I voted for Ralph Nader (Green Party). If he runs again in 2004 (probable but not a sure thing), I'll vote for him again. I wish that minor party candidates for President were allowed into the televised debates - ties back to my concerns about the rules that the Republicans and the Democrats make to preserve their hold on power. Go Nader!
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| nztrekkie | Sep 24 2003, 11:06 PM Post #32 |
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you don't have to be a registered voter to vote in an election do you ? only in the Primaries surely ? |
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| nztrekkie | Sep 24 2003, 11:28 PM Post #33 |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Sep 25 2003, 12:05 AM Post #34 |
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| benetil | Sep 25 2003, 05:34 AM Post #35 |
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nztrekkie: Yes, only individuals who are registered to vote are supposed to be allowed to cast a vote on election day. But some states, such as mine, have "same day registration" which means that with proper identification documents, a person can register to vote on the very day of the election. Some states require advance registration. As far as Primaries go, that is where Party affiliation is required. But not all states even have "Primary" elections (my state, for instance, doesn't have Primaries, we have a Delegate process that determines the candidate who will represent the Party in the actual election). |
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| Swidden | Sep 25 2003, 09:20 AM Post #36 |
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I believe in this case the correct order is: * An inhereited recession, a war, # of terms |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Sep 25 2003, 10:16 AM Post #37 |
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Benetil, in what state does this happen? Same day registration?? Geez, the opportunity for fraud is rampant! Think about it, how many poll officials can tell the difference between a real ID and a fake one, taking into consideration today's technology. Remember, these folks are volunteers, not experts. Illegal aliens have been using fake green cards that look as good as the real, holographic green cards for years. Here in Texas, the cutoff date for voter registration is October 7th (I think). If you aren't registered, you can't vote in our November 4th mayoral elections. We also voted on 22 amendments to our state constitution on the 13th of this month. You had to be registered by August 16th to participate. This allows time for the voter's application to be verified and added to the rolls of the precinct in which he/she lives. Before people exclaim how unfair this is, does anyone know how EASY it is to register to vote? You can go to any post office and get the card. You can get a form when you renew your driver's license (I hate this idea because some states give licenses to illegal aliens) as well. Here in Texas, you can ask for a voter registration application by mail or the Internet (it must be mailed in, though). Just my $0.02. |
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| Swidden | Sep 25 2003, 10:30 AM Post #38 |
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California requires a two week pre-electio cut-off. This was a compromise between the factions that wanted same-day and those that wnatd to leaev it alone. I would say that, in this day and age, that even if it is weeks ahead the possibility for fraud is still very high. A few years ago there was a minor scandal involving student at the University of California Santa Cruz (aka UCSC, aka Uncle Chalrie's Summer Camp). Seems they were registered at home and at school residences... |
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| benetil | Sep 25 2003, 01:19 PM Post #39 |
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Admiralbill_gomec: Minnesota. I think that this (registration the day of an election) has been allowed as a way to include as many "voters" as possible. Voter fraud (rather, fraudulent registration) hasn't been a serious problem in Minnesota insofar as "hot news items" go. I'm sure it does occur, though - as it does everywhere. I do agree that it is so easy to register to vote that there just isn't a good excuse not to register well in advance of the actual election. Interesting details about Texas - I didn't know. Sounds like a process that works. Here we have many of the same options and opportunities to register - mail, web, DMV, etc. - just the added "same day" for the occasional procrastinator. |
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| benetil | Sep 25 2003, 01:34 PM Post #40 |
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Swidden: yeah, yeah - ok, fine. I offer the following correction . . . as long as the parallel "one term" remains in tact!President George H. W. Bush: inherited a recession, had a war, served one term, succeeded by a two-term Democrat President George W. Bush: inherited a recession, had a war, served one term, succeeded by a two-term Democrat Ha! Take care.
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Sep 25 2003, 04:54 PM Post #41 |
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Sorry, but George H.W. Bush did not inherit a recession from Ronald Reagan. Reagan had been out of office for two years when the recession of 1990-91 started. In addition, George W. Bush's recession started two MONTHS after entering office, following a seven TRILLION dollar collapse in the stock market the previous year. The Dems won't win on the economy. |
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