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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 26 2003, 09:10 AM (807 Views) | |
| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 26 2003, 09:10 AM Post #1 |
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With the upcoming season of Enterprise, one has to wonder... how bad will it be?? Think where Berman and Braga left us: This unknown race called the Xindi cuts a big line across Florida. Enterprise now routinely cruises at warp five (Remember when drive plasma venting made the NX-01 look like a 1961 Rambler?). The expanse is supposed to drive people mad. T'Pol is booted from the Vulcan military. This is what has been filled in over the summer: The Xindi are now FIVE races. Warp Five is a lot faster than it used to be. Several episodes are set inside the Expanse, but somehow Enteprise doesn't destroy itself. T'Pol gets a new catsuit. T'pol is going to experiment with emotions. What shall we see? Who knows. Does Trip become first officer, now that T'Pol is essentially a civilian in a new revealing catsuit? Will T'pol become the new ship's resident freak, taking the position from Phlox? Will Phlox ever be replaced by a real character? Will Braga ever get a clue? Reading quotes from stenterprise.com, he's oblivious. |
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| Wichita | Aug 26 2003, 09:14 AM Post #2 |
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Braga may be oblivious, but he is "very pleased".
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 26 2003, 09:23 AM Post #3 |
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I read the same thing... I wonder what passes for reality in his universe? |
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| mrbastard | Aug 26 2003, 09:31 AM Post #4 |
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it's the Xindi attack that has upset me...millions dead if just a single tiny event was changed in Archer's time, it would have repecussions for TOS and TNG era...even the slightest alteration in the timeline would be disastrous...therefore, when millions die, surely everything we have seen before in TOS etc, won't happen. They've completely f***ed everything up...they think the reason Nemesis flopped was because nobody wanted to see Romulans, and that's their excuse for not doing Romulans in Enterprise (apart from Minefield)...they don't see that Nemesis flopped because it was a combined re-hash of The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country, not to mention it was directed by a man who has gone on record saying he has NEVER watched Star Trek...and it certainly showed. I think one of the most exciting aspects of the idea of a Star Trek prequel was that we might see the Romulan wars. So B&B reckon the most popular films were the ones where earth was under threat of destruction, so that's where Enterprise is heading. Wrong. Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home, and First Contact were fan favoutites for various reasons. A great story and fine screenplay in Wrath of Khan, great humour and a lighter, but still very contemporary story in The Voyage Home, and an excellent battle of the bulge in a winner-takes-all situation in First Contact - even if they did do the worn-out time travel thing. They haven't a clue. |
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| ImpulseEngine | Aug 26 2003, 01:31 PM Post #5 |
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I'm optomistic, but then I haven't been very critical of the show to begin with. For the most part I have liked Enterprise. I think they have overdone the sexuality with the decon scenes, the catsuit, Hoshi losing her top, and so forth. I also think many of the stories could be better - and I hated A Night In Sickbay. But overall, I think there is hope.
I have to admit though I've stopped thinking of this as a prequel so much and have been just enjoying Star Trek. As a prequel there is too much that doesn't fit. I agree with MrB's point about killing so many people on Earth and how that would change TOS and onward. I also thought the Borg messed up the timeline big time (and I've heard all the arguments to the contrary, but I don't agree that they make sense). Now, of course, all of this could be straightened out in season 7 by going back in time and setting everything straight somehow, but that would be lame. Well, maybe I'm optomistic because I just tend to be that way about most things. B) |
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| Jmkeepingca | Aug 26 2003, 01:50 PM Post #6 |
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I think ENTERPRISE is going to need some changes made and there are some good ideas her. As the nest highest ranking Starfleet officer, Trip should now be the First Officer. After all T'Pol is now on civvie street, and Archer would be nuts to allow a civilian take command of the ship. I have a feeling there are a lot of implausabilities going to happen this season, but we have to keep an open mind about the direction of the show. I mean I have sid it before... I'll say it again... and I'll stand by it. Just because we never saw or heard something in any of the previous series doesn't make what happens in ENTERPRISE any less valid. |
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| TribbleMom | Aug 26 2003, 05:43 PM Post #7 |
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Well, this whole Xindi story arc may add a shot of life to Enterprise, much as the Dominion War did for DS9. (Anybody else notice that parallel?). Wars always make for drama. But I pray that B&B will remember something of Gene Roddenberry's original vision through it all. The original Star Trek succeeded in syndication so well because people latched onto the hope for a better future. TOS "promised" us that humanity will eventually overcome prejudice, bigotry, the need for revenge, and a multitude of other nasties that we're still dealing with today. Maybe we can find that Star Trek light at the end of the tunnel again -- and maybe it won't be a train! A lot of it depends on the writers and B&B. Let's hope they'll get this season right. I'll keep watching to see. |
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| Cool Vulcan | Aug 26 2003, 07:33 PM Post #8 |
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Actually reading what Berman said in STM, he said it may end up almost the whole season. I don't like Braga, for reasons cause I think hes a bit of a pervert. I find it very strange that Jeri Ryan got the job on Voyager and within a month or two we hear both her and Braga got married. Also I feel T'Pol is fast becomin the Borg woman with pointed ears. |
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| Lilac | Aug 27 2003, 02:01 PM Post #9 |
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I'm willing to bet there'll be a gratuious shower scene involving either T'Pol or Hoshi (hey, we've already had an Archer shower scene). Perhaps more than one. Perhaps even a whole episode based on one shower scene - I really wouldn't put it past Berman and Braga. |
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| bonja | Aug 27 2003, 06:17 PM Post #10 |
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For now I'm working on the assumption that the millions who died had to in order to make room for the 23rd century we know. After all, if Trip's sister had lived she might have married the man who would have been James Kirk's grandfather and then where would we be? |
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| mrbastard | Aug 28 2003, 07:14 AM Post #11 |
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and the most henous and and damaging attack in our planets history was never mentioned even ONCE in TOS and beyond? I see where you're coming from, I have considered this approach...but I'm still against an entire branch of the franchise having only one major long-term story line, and that being a time travel theme that has been overdone already. |
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| Jmkeepingca | Aug 28 2003, 07:31 AM Post #12 |
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Okay, now I am scared... this agreeing between me and Mr.B has got to stop! Seriously though. I agree with the fact that right now it seems the major underlying theme behind ENTERPRISE is the time travel theme. Folks, this has been done to death, death, death! I mean Star Trek: The Magazine once ran an article on how the time line should be screwed up because of all the time hopping going on in the Trekverse! I think time travel stories are nice every now and then but the series really needs to get away from this Temporal Cold War crap! Okay... so maybe the Xindi storyline will do that... but even still the "mystery man" from the future has played some hand in that storyline already. If B&B want to get the viewers attention, they have to start playing ball within the realm of the known Trekverse. Like maybe if from this whole Xindi thing the Planet Killer from TOS is developed? Or maybe the Iconians from TNG get involved... I dunno... I am just trying to make sense of a weak storyline. Though I have said it before and I'll say it again... do we go around in our everday lives quoting stuff or making reference to events that happened 200 years ago? Not normally... and just think about it... there has been a reference to ENTERPRISE in "current" Trek. In Nemesis... the scene where the names of the ships are on the screen... there is a ship called the USS Archer. Just trying to make it all fit... I wish Beavis and Butthead would make the effort to do the same. |
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| gdog243 | Aug 28 2003, 11:10 AM Post #13 |
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Ever since the season finale, I havn't been looking foward to the new season. (Kind of tells you how bad the finale really was doesn't it) I'll watch, but I don't really like this whole Xindi (Or whatever because I don't read spoilers) thing. I know they wanted to give the show direction, but they should have continued the whole thing with the Andorians or something. At least that storyline was interesting and it is a building block to the birth of the federation. Speaking of which, do you think that we will see the federation born in this series. With this "New Direction" I doubt it any time soon. The show might be cancelled by then. |
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| bonja | Aug 28 2003, 08:59 PM Post #14 |
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I know. I'm stretching the benefit of the doubt almost to my limits. I recall WWI only being mentioned once and the Korean War was never mentioned so I'm accepting the Xindi attack as being plausible in TOS' past. I also agree that ENT has over done time travel. I used to like time travel stories in Star Trek but that's gone sour. It's just like the way DS9 killed the mirror universe with all those episodes when one would have been enough. |
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| Dandandat | Aug 30 2003, 10:46 PM Post #15 |
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"The expanse is supposed to drive people mad." who here sees a "naked now" or "naked time" type episode, where we will see T’pol baring more then we have seen so far? I Predict an episode around May will be of this type and T’pol and Archer will "make the sex" in an attempt to save the third season of Enterprise when the whole xindi idea blows up in there face. |
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