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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 9 2008, 10:03 AM (581 Views) | |
| HistoryDude | Dec 9 2008, 10:03 AM Post #1 |
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This is like the 5th of our last 12 governors to have been in, currently reside, or will be going to jail... This story has been developing for a couple years, but now seems to been getting even more interesting...if it weren't so pathetic.
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| Dwayne | Dec 9 2008, 11:10 AM Post #2 |
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I suspect a pardon is coming his way some time this Febuary. And this article is a great candidate for Name that Party. That's where you go through news stories about political scandals and then try to determine the political party of the perp based on the story. Edited by Dwayne, Dec 9 2008, 11:15 AM.
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| RTW | Dec 9 2008, 11:27 AM Post #3 |
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There must be some mistake. An Illinois politician arrested for corruption? It can't be true! Surely a typo.That would be mighty brazen. A president would have to mistake himself for emperor to pull that off. Yep. SMDD. Of course, those in the know realize that only one party gets elected in Illinois. |
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| HistoryDude | Dec 9 2008, 11:34 AM Post #4 |
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Careful, guys... This one is a Chicago Democrat. But our immediate previous "governor" is already currently in jail on other corruption crimes. Republican George Ryan That's two governors in-a-row for Illinois. What a feat!
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| HistoryDude | Dec 9 2008, 11:40 AM Post #5 |
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From the Washington Post with a little more analysis on the impact nationally...
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| RTW | Dec 9 2008, 12:11 PM Post #6 |
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Who didn't see that coming? Even I knew that being a Republican is considered a crime in Illinois. |
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| ds9074 | Dec 9 2008, 12:12 PM Post #7 |
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Seems wrong to me that the Governor can just appoint the replacement Senator. A by-election seems like a better way to go. I strongly dislike the idea of appointing legislators, they should be elected. |
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| Dwayne | Dec 9 2008, 12:22 PM Post #8 |
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^^^ It is absolutely normal for the governor of a state to appoint a replacement for an unexpectedly vacated congressional seat. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 9 2008, 04:19 PM Post #9 |
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The feds are also probing the Rezko/Obama land deal from 2005 as well. I'm not at all surprised about this. I'll say this now and say this for as long as Obama is in office. The man is part of the Chicago machine and is as crooked as they come. He and his ilk make LBJ look like a choirboy. Obama isn't even sworn in yet and he's already linked to a corruption scandal. I was calling Obama "Jimmy Carter, Junior" amongst my friends and associates, but now the only comparison I can think of is Bill Clinton. Yup, we get the government we deserve... and I'm disgusted! |
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| ds9074 | Dec 9 2008, 07:09 PM Post #10 |
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Normal and right can be two different things. By having a system that allows appointment to the legislature you allow for the possibility of corruption in the way that appointment is made (look up cash for peerages), you remove democratic choice and with that you remove any sense of responsibility from the legislator that they have been sent by the people to represent the people. |
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| RTW | Dec 9 2008, 09:46 PM Post #11 |
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That's on the fast track to nowhere. Either they'll "find nothing" and end the investigation quickly or they'll string it out for 4 or 8 years. |
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| RTW | Dec 9 2008, 09:49 PM Post #12 |
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When the governor of a state to appoints a replacement for an unexpectedly vacated congressional seat it's only for the remainder of the term as a special election would cost $millions. |
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| ds9074 | Dec 10 2008, 04:02 AM Post #13 |
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What price democracy? |
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| HistoryDude | Dec 10 2008, 09:22 AM Post #14 |
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DS, you're making way too much of this principle in our system. We have all kinds of appointed positions throughout our government. Allowing for governors to appoint replacement Senators in the event of an unexpected vacancy - which doesn't even happen all that often - is not what is bringing down American democracy (that is other things and for other threads). There are logistical and cost matters associated that make it beneficial not to have an election. And, besides, we're still a step up from how the Constitution originally set up how Senators were to be chosen - by election among the individual state legislatures. Thanks to the 17th Amendment, they're popularly elected, now. Of course there can be corruption involved - there is in all facets of every government. That's why I believe in as limited a government as you can possibly get by with. The Governor "selling" an empty Senatorial seat has been a famous form of corruption in the history of American politics - rather that be myth or truth. The cynic in me tends to assume the latter... |
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| Swidden | Dec 10 2008, 09:02 PM Post #15 |
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Seems like this is just good old, old fashion Chicago politics. Isn't that where they came up with the cliche that an honest politician is one that once bought stays bought? |
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This story has been developing for a couple years, but now seems to been getting even more interesting...if it weren't so pathetic.

2:12 PM Jul 11