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Obama's Cult of Personality
Topic Started: Nov 10 2008, 03:05 PM (730 Views)
Minuet
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Dwayne
Nov 11 2008, 02:37 PM
^^^ And all definitions I see on a cult of personality specifically require gross adoration and hero worship via media.
Dwayne, your own link from Dictionary.com makes no mention of the media whatsoever.
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Nov 11 2008, 02:37 PM
^^^ And all definitions I see on a cult of personality specifically require gross adoration and hero worship via media.
Well thats my disagreement. I would say a cult of personality could occur even on quite a small scale, for example within an individual church where it becomes corrupted from part of a wider relgious organisation into a cult of personality of the pastor or leader. It doesnt have to have anything to do with the mass media or the mass of the population, though obviously the bigger it is and the more it can get media support the more powerful it becomes.
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Nov 11 2008, 11:20 AM
Hopefully some of these people will come to their senses and see that they elected a man, not a god.
I have to strongly disagree.

As disgusting as their idolatry is, the enormity their eventual disappointment will be great intertainment.
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Nov 11 2008, 02:46 PM
Admiralbill_gomec
Nov 11 2008, 11:20 AM
Hopefully some of these people will come to their senses and see that they elected a man, not a god.
I have to strongly disagree.

As disgusting as their idolatry is, the enormity their eventual disappointment will be great intertainment.
I wonder if it will be as entertaining as watching the right wing cultists come down to earth....... ;)
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Minuet
Nov 11 2008, 03:04 PM
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Nov 11 2008, 02:46 PM
Admiralbill_gomec
Nov 11 2008, 11:20 AM
Hopefully some of these people will come to their senses and see that they elected a man, not a god.
I have to strongly disagree.

As disgusting as their idolatry is, the enormity their eventual disappointment will be great intertainment.
I wonder if it will be as entertaining as watching the right wing cultists come down to earth....... ;)
Right wing cultists??? :headscratch: Worshiping at whose altar?
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George Bush.

Keep in mind that this doesn't refer to all right wingers. Just as, quite obviously, not all people who voted for Obama are members of a "cult". But there are those out there (maybe one or two have even shown up on this board ;) ) who will make any excuse to defend Bush no matter what the situation. Their "Great Leader" can do no wrong.

The group exists.
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Is it possible to have a "cult of personality" that consists of one person worshipping himself/herself?
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Nov 11 2008, 06:44 PM
George Bush.

Keep in mind that this doesn't refer to all right wingers. Just as, quite obviously, not all people who voted for Obama are members of a "cult". But there are those out there (maybe one or two have even shown up on this board ;) ) who will make any excuse to defend Bush no matter what the situation. Their "Great Leader" can do no wrong.

The group exists.
:rotfl:

Could someone be projecting ... again?

The group does exist ... in the minds of those afflicted with BDS. ;)
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Lets stay on topic and discuss the topic of the thread.

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Nov 11 2008, 08:40 PM
Minuet
Nov 11 2008, 06:44 PM
George Bush.

Keep in mind that this doesn't refer to all right wingers. Just as, quite obviously, not all people who voted for Obama are members of a "cult". But there are those out there (maybe one or two have even shown up on this board ;) ) who will make any excuse to defend Bush no matter what the situation. Their "Great Leader" can do no wrong.

The group exists.
:rotfl:

Could someone be projecting ... again?

The group does exist ... in the minds of those afflicted with BDS. ;)
I could just label the people who disagree with Obama as having ODS (Obama derangement syndrome) - it would be easier then trying to discuss opposing views in an intelligent manner.......

Anyhow - it's very easy to find articles from a few years back describing Bush's Cult of Personality. Here are a few examples.

http://poljunk.gloriousnoise.com/2007/04/a_cult_of_personality_in_living_colour.php

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=09&year=2005&base_name=cult_of_personality

If you want more here is the Google search I used.

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enCA284CA284&q=Personality+cult+George+Bush
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I have to admit, most of what we've seen about Obama here has been about his rise since he became Dem Candidate, only big news stuff gets filtered out to foreign lands, so don't really know much about this new leader of the free world, except he used to hang out with a dodgie preacher
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I could just label the people who disagree with Obama as having ODS (Obama derangement syndrome) - it would be easier then trying to discuss opposing views in an intelligent manner...
Of course you could, and undoubtedly you or someone else eventually will. Every intelligent person will laugh at that assertion.

You do understand that this thread is about a few of Obama's supporters, not the man himself, .... don't you?

If a high percentage of non-Obama supporters begin to spout off about hating the man instead of disagreeing with his decisions and vague policies, then I may be the one to make accusations of ODS.
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Nov 12 2008, 04:34 PM
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I could just label the people who disagree with Obama as having ODS (Obama derangement syndrome) - it would be easier then trying to discuss opposing views in an intelligent manner...
Of course you could, and undoubtedly you or someone else eventually will. Every intelligent person will laugh at that assertion.

You do understand that this thread is about a few of Obama's supporters, not the man himself, .... don't you?

If a high percentage of non-Obama supporters begin to spout off about hating the man instead of disagreeing with his decisions and vague policies, then I may be the one to make accusations of ODS.
Yes, I do understand what this thread is about. Unlike the first thread this one has been much clearer about being about the supporters and not the man himself.

Why do you need a high percentage of non-Obama supporters to spout off about hating the man, when you are so quick to label the tiny percentage of non-Bush supporters. Your perception that it is a large number of people is simply that - a perception. Just look at this forum as an example - there are plenty of Obama/Democrat supporters. Yet only one single person has professed hate for George Bush.

One does not a "high percentage" make.

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Can we agree to disagree and keep the thread moving?

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Maybe I need to be clearer about the point I am making. I do think it is on topic.

People are expressing concerns about a cult of personality building up around Obama. I don't think there is anything to fear unless the man himself starts to abuse these followers. My point in bringing up George Bush is to show that he too has followers who would defend him beyond what some think is reasonable. But he has not abused these people or used them in any way. In fact I think the American political system effectively prevents him or Obama from doing so.

Personality cults really aren't so rare.
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