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The educational Spred
Topic Started: Nov 6 2008, 12:56 AM (165 Views)
Dandandat
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I found spreds for this voter demographic interesting: what does it tell you?


Vote by Education

No High School (4%)
63% - Obama
35% - McCain

Spread = 28%

H.S. Graduate (20%)
52% - Obama
46% - McCain

Spread = 8%

Some College (31%)
51% - Obama
47% - McCain

Spread = 4%

College Graduate (28%)
50% - Obama
48% - McCain

Spread = 2%

Postgraduate (17%)
58% - Obama
40% - McCain

Spread = 18%


Why is it that the uneducated/lesseducated and the most educated have such a considerable spread as compared to the middle groups?


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

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I think the "no high school" spread is self-explanatory on many levels.

Post-grads though? Perhaps even the best minds can only withstand 4 years in the hallowed halls of liberal indoctrination? :P
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Do you really want to know ?

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Admiralbill_gomec
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somerled
Nov 6 2008, 01:24 AM
RTW
Nov 6 2008, 01:13 AM
I think the "no high school" spread is self-explanatory on many levels.

Post-grads though? Perhaps even the best minds can only withstand 4 years in the hallowed halls of liberal indoctrination? :P
:rotfl: :rotfl: .... bull dust. :rotfl: :rotfl: coming from you that's a laugh .... :loling:

As a postgrad I can tell you there is no indoctrination (least in any universities here) and it is an redneck's urban myth that there is.
Remind me what country you live in?

Last I checked it was NOT the United States. :wave2:

As someone who did (within the past three and a half years) once again journey through the hallowed halls of academe at a post grad level, I can say that (even in the business school) there was a truckload of left wing ideology. Since this campus (University of Houston system) also had undergraduate classes, I also interfaced with many students and ideologies (most of them far left) during my time there. Most of those political ideologies were... wait for it... almost there... rabid left.

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Dandandat
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Admiralbill_gomec
Nov 6 2008, 09:54 AM
somerled
Nov 6 2008, 01:24 AM
RTW
Nov 6 2008, 01:13 AM
I think the "no high school" spread is self-explanatory on many levels.

Post-grads though? Perhaps even the best minds can only withstand 4 years in the hallowed halls of liberal indoctrination? :P
:rotfl: :rotfl: .... bull dust. :rotfl: :rotfl: coming from you that's a laugh .... :loling:

As a postgrad I can tell you there is no indoctrination (least in any universities here) and it is an redneck's urban myth that there is.
Remind me what country you live in?

Last I checked it was NOT the United States. :wave2:

As someone who did (within the past three and a half years) once again journey through the hallowed halls of academe at a post grad level, I can say that (even in the business school) there was a truckload of left wing ideology. Since this campus (University of Houston system) also had undergraduate classes, I also interfaced with many students and ideologies (most of them far left) during my time there. Most of those political ideologies were... wait for it... almost there... rabid left.

That was my experience as well. I'm sure it didn't help that I went to school in a area that is itself liberal
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Dandandat
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somerled
Nov 6 2008, 01:20 AM
Do you really want to know ?

While I am sure I will regret this, as I imagine your opinion will be anti-American in someway, I do really want to know what you think about this.
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American post grads come here to study further , I know quite a few of them . Their political stances are as varied as any other similar sized group of americans I have met.

So no , the lefty indoctrination of students and postgrads is a myth. Mostly spread by people who have never been to uni , yet alone studied at post grad level and encouraged by people who see it as a handy excuse for their own party's inadequacies and shortcomings , which post grads often pick up on and see through unless they have been indoctrinated in their families and churches to believe in the republican idiology .

Generalisation complete.

Cleavour and insiteful people most post grads , that's why they voted in Obama. No lefty conspiracy to brain wash students.

But is there a christian fundamentalist conspiracy that is very right wing and pro republican and which brain washes parishes and congregations ..... I wonder ?

On that note good night .... got a long way to drive tomorrow and an dawn start or there abouts to get to a bad patch of road by about noon and just before low tide. :wave2:
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Nov 6 2008, 11:02 AM
American post grads come here to study further , I know quite a few of them . Their political stances are as varied as any other similar sized group of americans I have met.

So no , the lefty indoctrination of students and postgrads is a myth. Mostly spread by people who have never been to uni , yet alone studied at post grad level and encouraged by people who see it as a handy excuse for their own party's inadequacies and shortcomings , which post grads often pick up on and see through unless they have been indoctrinated in their families and churches to believe in the republican idiology .

Generalisation complete.

Cleavour and insiteful people most post grads , that's why they voted in Obama. No lefty conspiracy to brain wash students.

But is there a christian fundamentalist conspiracy that is very right wing and pro republican and which brain washes parishes and congregations ..... I wonder ?

On that note good night .... got a long way to drive tomorrow and an dawn start or there abouts to get to a bad patch of road by about noon and just before low tide. :wave2:
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So no , the lefty indoctrination of students and postgrads is a myth


Thank you. Your opinion has been noted.
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I'm left wondering how extremely far left a university would have to be for somerled to consider it liberal. I have a hunch he would find ALL universities in the USA to be quite conservative.
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somerled
Nov 6 2008, 11:02 AM
Mostly spread by people who have never been to uni , yet alone studied at post grad level
Yet here you have two people realting their experinces who have been to uni and studied at post grad level.


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and encouraged by people who see it as a handy excuse for their own party's inadequacies and shortcomings ,


An again here you have me relating my experiences yet have no party affiliation to excuse.


Do you simply dream up these "theories" of yours or does someone tell them to you?
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Dandandat
Nov 6 2008, 12:12 PM
somerled
Nov 6 2008, 11:02 AM
Mostly spread by people who have never been to uni , yet alone studied at post grad level
Yet here you have two people realting their experinces who have been to uni and studied at post grad level.


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and encouraged by people who see it as a handy excuse for their own party's inadequacies and shortcomings ,


An again here you have me relating my experiences yet have no party affiliation to excuse.


Do you simply dream up these "theories" of yours or does someone tell them to you?
:clap: :rotfl: :hail: :rotfl: (Especially the last line)
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I don't think these particular statistics can really tell you anything. There could be a number of reasons for them. For example it is likely that College Graduates earn considerable salaries so would be concerned about tax rises, but then how do you explain the Post Graduate group?

I think it is very easy to read too much into statistics like this.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Nov 6 2008, 05:03 PM
I don't think these particular statistics can really tell you anything. There could be a number of reasons for them. For example it is likely that College Graduates earn considerable salaries so would be concerned about tax rises, but then how do you explain the Post Graduate group?

I think it is very easy to read too much into statistics like this.
Well, many post grads go into academia, which is traditionally quite liberal. Most teaching positions at any university require a minimum of a Master's degree.

Mind you, I said "many" and not even "most." I'm just giving a possibility.
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Dandandat
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Nov 6 2008, 05:03 PM
I don't think these particular statistics can really tell you anything. There could be a number of reasons for them. For example it is likely that College Graduates earn considerable salaries so would be concerned about tax rises, but then how do you explain the Post Graduate group?

I think it is very easy to read too much into statistics like this.
True, but its not bad to speculate


For example we can say the less educated are in the lower classes of America and so are looking forward to the entitlements promised by Obama.

Or we can say they are ill informed about the issues and chose the candidate with the most hype.

The middle education group is more in line with the country as a whole divided roughly evenly.

As for the post grads it’s a bit harder to explain why they too wouldn’t be more inline with the country as a whole as the midrange educated are and that’s what I found most interesting about this statistics.
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