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| Dandandat | Nov 5 2008, 11:42 PM Post #1 |
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Obama spent a lot of during his acceptance speech talking about the wisdom of Ann Nixon Cooper a 106 year old women; He was parsing her for he wisdom a courage and making it clear that these things that came with her age and the cumulated experiences she had over that time. That’s a very powerful message; having the listener accept the wisdom and courage of the elderly and look upon it to inspire us in our actions.
What I find ironic however is that the elderly quite decidedly pulled for McCain this election. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1 |
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| Dwayne | Nov 5 2008, 11:47 PM Post #2 |
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Ironic? How? |
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| somerled | Nov 5 2008, 11:49 PM Post #3 |
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Did they ? I heard they went the other way and wound up very close for the 65s and overs as a lot of them rely on their investments which have been damaged and even become worthless under Bush's watch and seniors (50 yo +) favoured Obama overall nationally too. But here is an exit poll , that shows what one set of data indicates : http://abcnews.go.com/pollingunit/exitpolls 48.1% of over 50s went to Obama (weighted avg) 51.1% of over 50s went to McCain Not a lot in it. But wait , don't a lot of your fellow travellors say polls are worthless anyway ?? Edited by somerled, Nov 6 2008, 12:02 AM.
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| Dandandat | Nov 5 2008, 11:50 PM Post #4 |
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That Obama would invoke the wisdom and courage of the elderly to explain why his change is needed when the elderly does not agree with him. |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 5 2008, 11:51 PM Post #5 |
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I think that's an overgeneralization Dan. There are several elderly people I know who support Obama. |
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| Dandandat | Nov 5 2008, 11:53 PM Post #6 |
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Did you look at your link Over 65 Obama: 45% McCain: 53% |
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| Dandandat | Nov 5 2008, 11:54 PM Post #7 |
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Yes but I know 53% more elderly then 45% that supported McCain. |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 5 2008, 11:55 PM Post #8 |
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Looks like a fairly even split to me. |
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| Dwayne | Nov 5 2008, 11:56 PM Post #9 |
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Yes, I guess that seems ironic... As for Dan's statement being a generalization... So what? He's talking about the plurality of the elderly and just sums it up by calling it 'the elderly', such as the rhetorical use of the word 'we'. |
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| Dandandat | Nov 5 2008, 11:58 PM Post #10 |
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I see 53% to 45% is an even split but 52% to 47% is a clear mandate. |
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| somerled | Nov 6 2008, 12:03 AM Post #11 |
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Or fixed in their ways and a lot of them still in Cold War Mode - watch out for those commies under the bed folks . Edited by somerled, Nov 6 2008, 12:07 AM.
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| Dandandat | Nov 6 2008, 12:04 AM Post #12 |
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Not according to Obama, and since the cold war never came up as a campaign issue, I’m not quite sure what you mean. Edited by Dandandat, Nov 6 2008, 12:05 AM.
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| somerled | Nov 6 2008, 12:15 AM Post #13 |
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No , not that I have heard (doesn't mean it wasn't invoked) - just by essence of McCains military past - the Viet Nam was a hot part of the Cold War was it not - McCains military past was pushed ad nausium like it was relevant to now , so there is a connection that lot of people would likely have made), and people on your side have also used the word socialism like it is something bad ad nausium and continue to do so (and a lot of your side do not the difference between communism and socialism or that matter fascism even seen this in other threads here at Sistertrek. |
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| somerled | Nov 6 2008, 12:21 AM Post #14 |
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Oops my mistake , weight averages are actually : 50+ 48.49056604% went to Obama. 50+ 50.20754717% went to McCain. Still bugger all in it for the 50+ age group in any realistic sense. here's the calc wav = sum (fractionx%)/sum(fraction). Edited by somerled, Nov 6 2008, 12:37 AM.
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| Dandandat | Nov 6 2008, 12:25 AM Post #15 |
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If you say so; however McCains war stories are much more simply put into contacts of how he has served his country. In fact Vietnam the conflict itself was never talked about; the stories where left pretty generic. So I’ll have to give the elderly a little more credit than that. They may be elderly but that does not make them porn to illusionment. Since the cold war was not fought over socialism but rather communism; I don’t see why the elderly would be any more or less educated about this then younger people, yet they broke from the tender of the younger crowd. So again ill have to give them more credit than that. as for people here; we don’t have many (if any?) one over 65 here, so I don’t see the relevance. |
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