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2008 Presidential Election result
Topic Started: Nov 4 2008, 08:21 PM (708 Views)
whitestar
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Nov 5 2008, 09:33 AM
Welcome back, 24. Actually I was thinking about two specific posters in this thread.
No prize for the ID of the two posters..
As you have pointed out a time or two Admiral, I had no concern in the result, no voice and it's no skin of my nose which way it went. No need for gracious in victory or defeat, besides I posted an opinion in favour of McCain.
My post was about a lesson for Dwayne in the relevence of election campaigns and public opinion.

Congrats America on a new beginning, from the TV coverage it was an emotionaly charged occasion and my best hopes to your nation for the future after a bright new start.
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RTW
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The "conversation" between Dwayne and Ngagh, and Scotty's post, clearly demonstrates the difference between the far-right and far-left.
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RTW
Nov 5 2008, 08:17 PM
The "conversation" between Dwayne and Ngagh, and Scotty's post, clearly demonstrates the difference between the far-right and far-left.


How's that exactly, RTW ?


Now we're arguing about which side of the ideological spectrum are the most polite ?


All this is getting tiring.


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Franko
Nov 5 2008, 08:21 PM
RTW
Nov 5 2008, 08:17 PM
The "conversation" between Dwayne and Ngagh, and Scotty's post, clearly demonstrates the difference between the far-right and far-left.


How's that exactly, RTW ?


Now we're arguing about which side of the ideological spectrum are the most polite ?


All this is getting tiring.


If RTW's post is about who is usually more polite then there is no contest in my mind.

There are some very polite right wingers on this site. But if I were to pick the rudest posters on this site all but one on my list would be a right winger.
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somerled
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Minuet
Nov 5 2008, 09:15 PM
Franko
Nov 5 2008, 08:21 PM
RTW
Nov 5 2008, 08:17 PM
The "conversation" between Dwayne and Ngagh, and Scotty's post, clearly demonstrates the difference between the far-right and far-left.


How's that exactly, RTW ?


Now we're arguing about which side of the ideological spectrum are the most polite ?


All this is getting tiring.


If RTW's post is about who is usually more polite then there is no contest in my mind.

There are some very polite right wingers on this site. But if I were to pick the rudest posters on this site all but one on my list would be a right winger.
Gotta fight fire with fire sometimes - it's the only language some of these people understand and it is necessay to give as good as you get.

Being nice to them gets you no where.

RTW is not exactly a paradon of virtue here BTW.


.... continue ....

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somerled
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Nov 5 2008, 08:17 PM
The "conversation" between Dwayne and Ngagh, and Scotty's post, clearly demonstrates the difference between the far-right and far-left.
since you are as rightwing as dwayne if not more so .... you'd know :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Ngagh
Nov 5 2008, 06:47 PM
I really feel for Senator McCain. He looked almost embarrassed when his supporters booed Obama. I feel that he seems to have given up his independence to connected with the rabid base of the Republican party.

I feel for all the Republicans whose party has been hijacked and utterly destroyed by social conservatives and religious whack jobs. Power hungry cynics like Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and the Bush family were all too happy to take advantage of these divisive issues.

When they won 8 years ago, you didn't hear any kind of unifying theme, no "let's work together", no call to arms to do something great together as one nation. Instead what we heard was "we won, so f*ck you," and then came the lowest possible form of attack, calling the other side "american haters", and questioning their patriotism. I feel as a leader, Bush doesn't even know the meaning of the word "inspiration". His main theme was to tell everybody to just go home, that he knows best what to do, and leave the governing to him.

Everybody can see what that did for the country.

Call it what you will, but Obama did bring large parts of the population together without a rapid hatred of the other party.

Anyway, I hope you can get your party back, Republicans, or at least evolve into a new and better one. I hope you can leave the willful ignorance of the Sarah Palins of your party behind to labor in obscurity, and to drown in the swill of their own hatred.
I would have to disagree eight years ago the Bush administration tried to work across party lines, by adopting democratic polices such as no child left behind and immigration reform. Unfortunately sentiments that would create a post like yours, calling people whack jobs for having a difference of opinion quickly made it impossible for the Bush administration to continue to work in such a fashion. Equally unfortunate that members of Bush’s own party where on happy with his pull to the middle also making it difficult to work in such a fashion.

I hope in the next four years our country can put aside the hate that blinds one to only see what one wants to see, such as you believing someone said "we won, so f*ck you," when such a thing never happened. Where we can put aside the hate that causes use to call those who differ in opinion wake jobs.

That is the hope I want Obama to fulfill. It’s good to see that he tried to do that last night, I hope you can follow his worlds and dispense with such divisive revisionist history as this post. He does need all our help.
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Hearing McCain's concession speech seemed like the "old McCain" to me. In fact, I saw fleeting moments between the attacks on Obama's character such as when he said Obama was "a decent family man" and was booed at his own rally for saying so. Or during the same rally when a woman told McCain that she believes Obama to be "an Arab". McCain quickly retook the microphone and flat out told her, "No, he isn't."
I think the blind hatred really got to him. He did seem a little embarassed at the concession when the audience booed at the very mention of Obama's name.

But he showed the class that I respected him before by saying it is time for us to work together to clean up all the messes that have occurred in recent years.

The problem is when you whip people up into a frenzy to the point where the audience is screaming "terrorist!" and "kill him!" it's hard to get them to calm down again and see reality for what it is rather than the tired name calling rhetoric that has plagued elections for the past decade or so.
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Dr. Noah
Nov 5 2008, 10:41 PM
The problem is when you whip people up into a frenzy to the point where the audience is screaming "terrorist!" and "kill him!" it's hard to get them to calm down again and see reality for what it is rather than the tired name calling rhetoric that has plagued elections for the past decade or so.
"Blind hatred" and "tired name calling rhetoric" eh? Posted Image

*sigh*

This was debunked. The person who started this rumor was the only one person at the rally who "heard" those shouts.
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Dr. Noah
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Um, I have seen the video footage and heard it myself. Look it up.
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Ngagh
Nov 5 2008, 07:13 PM
Dwayne
Nov 5 2008, 06:57 PM
And these comments are a microcosm of the attitude on the left that is the real problem.

Let's put it this way...

I feel for all the democrat whose party has been hijacked and utterly destroyed by social liberals and Marxist whack jobs. Power hungry cynics like Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, and the Kennedy family were all too happy to take advantage of these divisive issues.
How about this Dwayne, you give me concrete example of Marxism within the Democratic members. That way, I'll drop my misplaced idealism of Obama and admit that I am a communist from Canada. All power to the Soviets!

Here's a small list of divisive issues that I can think of the top of my head:
Gay marriage
War of drugs
War of terrorism
Anti-Americanism/Freedom fries
"Real" America
Warrantless wiretapping/ATT immunity
GITMO
Clean Air Act
9/11
Iraq (It's like a market in America, right?)
The progressive income tax.

Case Closed.

Next.
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Dr. Noah
Nov 5 2008, 10:41 PM
Hearing McCain's concession speech seemed like the "old McCain" to me. In fact, I saw fleeting moments between the attacks on Obama's character such as when he said Obama was "a decent family man" and was booed at his own rally for saying so. Or during the same rally when a woman told McCain that she believes Obama to be "an Arab". McCain quickly retook the microphone and flat out told her, "No, he isn't."
I think the blind hatred really got to him. He did seem a little embarassed at the concession when the audience booed at the very mention of Obama's name.

But he showed the class that I respected him before by saying it is time for us to work together to clean up all the messes that have occurred in recent years.

The problem is when you whip people up into a frenzy to the point where the audience is screaming "terrorist!" and "kill him!" it's hard to get them to calm down again and see reality for what it is rather than the tired name calling rhetoric that has plagued elections for the past decade or so.
Yes I saw that in McCain too , he's a classy guy who was on dead end road and forced to pander to the hate merchants in the Republicans.

I also believe some people more than BOOed (that's just bad form) , I heard other things yelled too by a few isolated (I hope) voices , I hope the cops and the feds and the secret service guys were on the ball and apprehended the hate inciters I believe I heard on a couple of occasions during the concession speech.
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Dr. Noah
Nov 5 2008, 11:54 PM
Um, I have seen the video footage and heard it myself. Look it up.
I thought I was imagining what I heard , so was reluctant to mention it - someone else heard it too then , very disturbing (and I think McCain was not impressed either).
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Nov 5 2008, 11:24 PM
Dr. Noah
Nov 5 2008, 10:41 PM
The problem is when you whip people up into a frenzy to the point where the audience is screaming "terrorist!" and "kill him!" it's hard to get them to calm down again and see reality for what it is rather than the tired name calling rhetoric that has plagued elections for the past decade or so.
"Blind hatred" and "tired name calling rhetoric" eh? Posted Image

*sigh*

This was debunked. The person who started this rumor was the only one person at the rally who "heard" those shouts.
I believe what I heard was much worse that that ....
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Huh?
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Nov 6 2008, 12:15 AM
The progressive income tax.

Case Closed.

Next.
I assume that you think Adam Smith is a marxist then.
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