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| RTW | Oct 30 2008, 08:13 PM Post #16 |
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And... the problems they see are always only fixable by bigger government and more government spending. |
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| Minuet | Oct 30 2008, 08:41 PM Post #17 |
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That is simply not true. However, you would say bad things about Democrats no matter what. Your bias is so obvious that it harms others view of your opinion. |
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| 8247 | Oct 30 2008, 08:58 PM Post #18 |
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^^ Could you provide a link where a Democrat polititian said anything good about the US that was not past tense? |
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| Franko | Oct 30 2008, 09:13 PM Post #19 |
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This is all a bit of an illusion. One of the main themes that I often hear from the American right is the "breakdown of morality" and "traditional values" and so on, to be subsequently blamed on liberals, the left wing media, but not on irrational religious beliefs or the huge corporate entertainment industry which pretty well gets around to defiling everything. The right criticize their own culture all the time, but do it in a more passive-aggressive style. And as far as Obama is concerned, his campaign has been quite upbeat, but you can't expect him to provoke interest in his candicacy with a laid-back 'everything is fine' message. The right and the liberal/left even in Canada have always had this attitude of a kind of "right to rule" mentality. Shocked when they are put out of office, and when losing their power often turn to "complicated" theories instead of the simple answer: "we're tired of you. We're going to try the other brand for a while". Heh. |
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| Minuet | Oct 30 2008, 11:32 PM Post #20 |
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Now that is a completely silly request. Obama has said lots of good things during the race. I am not going to provide links. |
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| 8247 | Oct 30 2008, 11:47 PM Post #21 |
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Everything I've heard was things like "I'm going to make America the great nation that it once was!" |
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| Minuet | Oct 30 2008, 11:53 PM Post #22 |
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And that is worse then ignoring real problems? |
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| Dwayne | Oct 30 2008, 11:54 PM Post #23 |
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Who is saying this? Democrats? Republicans? Obama? I'm not sure. |
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| 8247 | Oct 30 2008, 11:58 PM Post #24 |
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I believe it is The Messiah. He's been saying the same thing for months. And Min, McCain does say he will fix what is broken. What is absent in McCain's speeches is the constant belittling the US. |
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| Dwayne | Oct 31 2008, 12:10 AM Post #25 |
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^^^ I'd like to know what time that was Obama is talking about. |
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| 8247 | Oct 31 2008, 12:12 AM Post #26 |
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^^ You mean better than the US is right now? I really wish McCain had asked him that in a debate. |
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| Dwayne | Oct 31 2008, 07:08 AM Post #27 |
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^^^ Yes, exactly. |
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| Minuet | Oct 31 2008, 08:06 AM Post #28 |
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So when one candidate says it you interpret it as "belittling" when the other does it you find it ok. Honestly I just think you are buying into a partisan interpretation here. |
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| 8247 | Oct 31 2008, 10:48 AM Post #29 |
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No, I take them for what they say. Obama keeps saying that we aren't as good as we used to be. McCain says that this is a great nation. |
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| Minuet | Oct 31 2008, 01:30 PM Post #30 |
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However, many agree with Obama. It's not wrong for him to state his opinion that things were better at a different time. Besides - I think this is all just smoke and mirrors. When Michelle Obama said she was proud of her country now she got attacked from all corners for not being proud of the past. No matter what the Democrats say someone puts a spin on it to make it bad. |
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