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What's this supposed to mean?
Topic Started: Oct 29 2008, 11:16 PM (317 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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whitestar
Oct 30 2008, 11:41 AM
Admiralbill_gomec
Oct 30 2008, 11:05 AM
National security force isn't a military force but rather a police force. This is why the NKVD popped into my head.
so was the Nazi SS a police force but armed as though a military force as would be any security force "that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded"
No, the SS was NOT a police force.

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Admiralbill_gomec
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Oct 30 2008, 01:26 PM
The history of the SS could be summed up as a paramilitary force. And it's really difficult at this point conclude how Obama's civilian national security force will operate. All I know is that this is not needed and would serve no function that's not already being accomplished by already existing agencies.
Pretty much so. The SS started as a paramilitary force but became the equivalent of a praetorian guard... the elite troop.

Unless Obama is calling for the equivalent of a secret police, or... even better yet... the equivalent of 1984's (the book, not the year) Ministry of Truth?
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Oct 29 2008, 11:16 PM
Obama is quoted as saying this...
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"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

http://bulletin.aarp.org/states/il/articles/obama_outlines_plan_for_national_service.html


So, Obama wants a civilian national security force... a policing agency if you will... that's as well funded, as powerful and as strong as the US Military.

Does anyone else see that as truly Orwellian?
When he says 'as powerful, as strong and as well funded' you have to assume that he means relative to the tasks they face.

Given the size of the US military budget if he means it literally then it would mean hundreds of billions of dollars in extra spending, presumably on an ongoing basis not just in a single year either. Thats totally unrealistic.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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ds9074
Oct 30 2008, 02:10 PM
Dwayne
Oct 29 2008, 11:16 PM
Obama is quoted as saying this...
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"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

http://bulletin.aarp.org/states/il/articles/obama_outlines_plan_for_national_service.html


So, Obama wants a civilian national security force... a policing agency if you will... that's as well funded, as powerful and as strong as the US Military.

Does anyone else see that as truly Orwellian?
When he says 'as powerful, as strong and as well funded' you have to assume that he means relative to the tasks they face.

Given the size of the US military budget if he means it literally then it would mean hundreds of billions of dollars in extra spending, presumably on an ongoing basis not just in a single year either. Thats totally unrealistic.
True, and even his buddies in the so-called mainstream media are calling him on it, as posted here:

http://s2.zetaboards.com/SisterTrek/topic/5025531/1/#new
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Dwayne
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^^^ Unfortunately, they aren't doing it enough and with enough vigor.
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ds9074
Oct 30 2008, 02:10 PM
...if he means it literally then it would mean hundreds of billions of dollars in extra spending, presumably on an ongoing basis not just in a single year either. Thats totally unrealistic.
Sounds pretty much in-line with his other proposals. :shrug:
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Dwayne
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Obama is promising everyone everything. It's so pathetic that the media isn't exposing this fraud.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Admiralbill_gomec
Oct 30 2008, 02:03 PM
Dwayne
Oct 30 2008, 01:26 PM
The history of the SS could be summed up as a paramilitary force. And it's really difficult at this point conclude how Obama's civilian national security force will operate. All I know is that this is not needed and would serve no function that's not already being accomplished by already existing agencies.
Pretty much so. The SS started as a paramilitary force but became the equivalent of a praetorian guard... the elite troop.

Unless Obama is calling for the equivalent of a secret police, or... even better yet... the equivalent of 1984's (the book, not the year) Ministry of Truth?
Maybe this is what Obama is calling for?

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=213103



National Black Panther Party members blocking Republican access to a Philadelphia polling place with billyclubs.

One was heard to say, "You VILL VOTE OUR VAY or go to ZEE EAZZZTERN FRONT!!" Or, maybe not.


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Dwayne
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Yes, it's not looking pretty. I fear McCain may win... Obama has created a personality cult, and it will want nothing less than retribution if Obama doesn't win.
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