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Obama Campaign Cuts Off Interviews W/Fl TV Station
Topic Started: Oct 27 2008, 09:16 AM (508 Views)
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Interesting interpretation Dan, but mine differs. My interpretation of those events is this. The campaign is in the final 8 days (not counting election day itself) and Obama is the clear front runner. At this point, it makes no strategic sense for them to do anything that is risky. This reporter and station seemed bent on asking questions that were aiming to trip Biden up. At some other point in the campaign when they were still fighting for the lead, Biden would have had to answer those questions because the negative from not answering them could significantly impact the long run. However, at this point in the campaign, the minor negative from not answering those questions is insignificant compared with the potential negative if he answers even just one question poorly. I think it's nothing more than simple strategy and it makes sense to me. It's not at all a reflection on Biden's abilities. Let's face it, ANYONE could trip up. So why should they take that chance this late in the campaign?
Here's my interpretation of the event: The Obama campaign is being petty and vindictive because this interviewer didn't follow the playbook and ask Biden softball questions. I mean, how dare anyone question The Messiah... :rolleyes:

How is asking if Obama is a Marxist tripping (the admittedly gaffe-tastic) Biden up? He could have said, "No." He might have added, "You are taking things out of context." End of story.

Good thing West didn't ask Biden about Obama's 2001 comments on "redistributive wealth." But that's the topic of another thread. Give me a moment.
The point, AB, is that comparing Obama to a Marxist is an obvious attempt to paint him in that light - one which would not be well received. Otherwise, why didn't she simply ask for clarification on what he meant by "spreading the wealth" if she just wanted to understand more about it? The "spreading the wealth" comment is also a highlight that the McCain campaign has been using in their negative TV and radio ads. And so is Biden's comment predicting that Obama will be tested which was the other question specifically mentioned in the article. But there are apparently more questions too than just those two. I can't watch the video right now so I don't know what they are. But these questions appeared to be just more of the negative attacks and so I think it is smart for Obama's campaign to avoid answering them. I don't care what answer they could give, those that disagree with the philosophies being presented will not be convinced and so Biden's or Obama's words will just be thrown back at them - you know it. Why would they want to subject themselves to a sure losing situation when they are poised to win?
He IE, if the shoe fits...


"Why would they want to subject themselves to a sure losing situation when they are poised to win?" Because the Obama campaign refuses to answer hardball questions. I WANT TO KNOW what kind of man could be my president, and if I find out he supports Marxist redistributionist policies I'm going to damned well do everything I can to be sure that everyone and their sheepdog friggin' knows it!!!

Stop hiding under your blanket and see your candidate for what he is. If this is what you want (No, I don't mean that vapid "Change" BS) in your candidate, then support him. BUT LOOK AND SEE WHAT HE STANDS FOR and what he wants to do. Take a good, long, HARD look.
I have looked and, aside from the low experience issue, I don't see any problem.

Then there's McCain, Mr. infidelity himself who not only cheated on his ex-wife with his current wife, but admitted to cheating on his ex-wife with other women too while stationed abroad. Hmm, cheating sounds familiar for some reason - oh yeah, that was a big deal when Clinton did it and, as I recall, you were quite vocal in your disgust concerning that. Where's your disgust now? You can't impeach someone who isn't yet in office, but wouldn't a refusal to elect him amount to the same? Where are the equivalent cries for that? In fact, speaking of issues not covered in the media, I have heard nothing about this one...

Maybe it's YOU who should take a harder look. And while you're at it, don't forget about Mr. "I don't want to run a negative campaign" who has run a VERY negative campaign at times, has flip flopped about choosing to do so then choosing not to, has "approved this message" with many ads that are outright lies, and who selected Palin as his running mate. Now why did I include that last one? Because Palin is obviously a woman with little if any ethics which is beginning to be proven - e.g., she was recently found guilty of abusing her power as Governor regarding the firing of that state trooper. As Minuet's article shows, she's being non-compliant even with the wishes of the McCain campaign itself - shouldn't she be a team player? It becomes more and more obvious that she wasn't the best choice McCain could have made. So why did he choose her? Obviously, it's because she's a woman and he was looking for the women's vote. So, on the one hand we have McCain making a poor choice - which is a poor reflection on his decision-making ability right off the bat - and on the other we see a total lack of regard for women by his selecting someone not because she has the best qualifications, but merely because she's a woman. That flies in the face of what the women's movement has always stood for which is that people should be chosen not based upon sex, but upon who is most qualified to do the job.

Exactly AB. "If the shoe fits..."
Funny, you didn't have a problem with Bill Clinton doing the same thing.

You see, unlike you I did know of McCain's infidelities and chose to vote for him anyway. I have said this before: I was a reluctant McCain supporter, but I am now an enthusiastic McCain/Palin supporter. I did not vote for McCain in the primary. I voted Romney.

So, tell me the lies McCain has told? I've seen the ads and haven't seen one. Maybe you just don't know about it because it wasn't on NBC?

By the way, I admire his choice of Palin. What you don't understand is the reason he chose her. It didn't have anything to do with being a woman, but rather a CONSERVATIVE. She's a big up-and-comer in conservative circles, and she'd been talked about in said circles since last Spring, even before McCain had clinched. Of course I wouldn't expect you to know it.

EDIT: Just for s***s and grins, look at the two recent posts about wealth redistribution and your guy palling around with Palestinian terrorists.
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Biden did it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZT1y1io4vA
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Interesting interpretation Dan, but mine differs. My interpretation of those events is this. The campaign is in the final 8 days (not counting election day itself) and Obama is the clear front runner. At this point, it makes no strategic sense for them to do anything that is risky. This reporter and station seemed bent on asking questions that were aiming to trip Biden up. At some other point in the campaign when they were still fighting for the lead, Biden would have had to answer those questions because the negative from not answering them could significantly impact the long run. However, at this point in the campaign, the minor negative from not answering those questions is insignificant compared with the potential negative if he answers even just one question poorly. I think it's nothing more than simple strategy and it makes sense to me. It's not at all a reflection on Biden's abilities. Let's face it, ANYONE could trip up. So why should they take that chance this late in the campaign?
Here's my interpretation of the event: The Obama campaign is being petty and vindictive because this interviewer didn't follow the playbook and ask Biden softball questions. I mean, how dare anyone question The Messiah... :rolleyes:

How is asking if Obama is a Marxist tripping (the admittedly gaffe-tastic) Biden up? He could have said, "No." He might have added, "You are taking things out of context." End of story.

Good thing West didn't ask Biden about Obama's 2001 comments on "redistributive wealth." But that's the topic of another thread. Give me a moment.
The point, AB, is that comparing Obama to a Marxist is an obvious attempt to paint him in that light - one which would not be well received. Otherwise, why didn't she simply ask for clarification on what he meant by "spreading the wealth" if she just wanted to understand more about it? The "spreading the wealth" comment is also a highlight that the McCain campaign has been using in their negative TV and radio ads. And so is Biden's comment predicting that Obama will be tested which was the other question specifically mentioned in the article. But there are apparently more questions too than just those two. I can't watch the video right now so I don't know what they are. But these questions appeared to be just more of the negative attacks and so I think it is smart for Obama's campaign to avoid answering them. I don't care what answer they could give, those that disagree with the philosophies being presented will not be convinced and so Biden's or Obama's words will just be thrown back at them - you know it. Why would they want to subject themselves to a sure losing situation when they are poised to win?
He IE, if the shoe fits...


"Why would they want to subject themselves to a sure losing situation when they are poised to win?" Because the Obama campaign refuses to answer hardball questions. I WANT TO KNOW what kind of man could be my president, and if I find out he supports Marxist redistributionist policies I'm going to damned well do everything I can to be sure that everyone and their sheepdog friggin' knows it!!!

Stop hiding under your blanket and see your candidate for what he is. If this is what you want (No, I don't mean that vapid "Change" BS) in your candidate, then support him. BUT LOOK AND SEE WHAT HE STANDS FOR and what he wants to do. Take a good, long, HARD look.
I have looked and, aside from the low experience issue, I don't see any problem.

Then there's McCain, Mr. infidelity himself who not only cheated on his ex-wife with his current wife, but admitted to cheating on his ex-wife with other women too while stationed abroad. Hmm, cheating sounds familiar for some reason - oh yeah, that was a big deal when Clinton did it and, as I recall, you were quite vocal in your disgust concerning that. Where's your disgust now? You can't impeach someone who isn't yet in office, but wouldn't a refusal to elect him amount to the same? Where are the equivalent cries for that? In fact, speaking of issues not covered in the media, I have heard nothing about this one...

Maybe it's YOU who should take a harder look. And while you're at it, don't forget about Mr. "I don't want to run a negative campaign" who has run a VERY negative campaign at times, has flip flopped about choosing to do so then choosing not to, has "approved this message" with many ads that are outright lies, and who selected Palin as his running mate. Now why did I include that last one? Because Palin is obviously a woman with little if any ethics which is beginning to be proven - e.g., she was recently found guilty of abusing her power as Governor regarding the firing of that state trooper. As Minuet's article shows, she's being non-compliant even with the wishes of the McCain campaign itself - shouldn't she be a team player? It becomes more and more obvious that she wasn't the best choice McCain could have made. So why did he choose her? Obviously, it's because she's a woman and he was looking for the women's vote. So, on the one hand we have McCain making a poor choice - which is a poor reflection on his decision-making ability right off the bat - and on the other we see a total lack of regard for women by his selecting someone not because she has the best qualifications, but merely because she's a woman. That flies in the face of what the women's movement has always stood for which is that people should be chosen not based upon sex, but upon who is most qualified to do the job.

Exactly AB. "If the shoe fits..."
Funny, you didn't have a problem with Bill Clinton doing the same thing.

You see, unlike you I did know of McCain's infidelities and chose to vote for him anyway. I have said this before: I was a reluctant McCain supporter, but I am now an enthusiastic McCain/Palin supporter. I did not vote for McCain in the primary. I voted Romney.

So, tell me the lies McCain has told? I've seen the ads and haven't seen one. Maybe you just don't know about it because it wasn't on NBC?

By the way, I admire his choice of Palin. What you don't understand is the reason he chose her. It didn't have anything to do with being a woman, but rather a CONSERVATIVE. She's a big up-and-comer in conservative circles, and she'd been talked about in said circles since last Spring, even before McCain had clinched. Of course I wouldn't expect you to know it.
Yes, I did have a problem with Clinton's infidelity. I'm not sure how you missed that in all our previous discussions.

As I said, the lies are in the ads and not necessarily McCain himself saying them, but he does add "I'm John McCain and I approve this message" so it amounts to the same as him stating the lies himself. One of the more outrageous even just lately has been the complete misrepresentation of Biden's comments regarding the expected testing of Obama and how that's been construed as some sort of admission by Biden that he thinks terrorists are targeting Obama ONLY. His statement wasn't about Obama specifically, it was about the next President. But every campaign talks about their candidate as "the next President" so of course Biden said "Obama". Nowhere did Biden say Obama would be targeted because of anything specific to Obama. All of his comments were generic so as to apply to any next President. Just substitute McCain's name wherever he said "Obama" and you'll see everything still fits. The McCain campaign knows this but that didn't stop them from outrightly lying about what Biden said.

You're right AB, Palin being a woman wasn't the ONLY reason she was chosen. She was also chosen to energize the conservative base and it worked to some degree. BUT other potential candidates could have done that too and ones who are better qualified. So I stick with my point that the MAIN reason she was chosen is because she's a woman.

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EDIT: Just for s***s and grins, look at the two recent posts about wealth redistribution and your guy palling around with Palestinian terrorists.
Oh please! That's such transparent crap, I'm really surprised you're buying into it. :rolleyes:
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^^^

Hey, where can I get some of those rose-colored glasses?

Buying into what? His own words?

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Buying into what? His own words?

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Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported .

During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist.

"Are you joking?," Biden asked.

West replied, "No."

Click here to watch the interview.

Later in the interview West questioned Biden about his comments that if Obama wins the election next month, he would be tested early on as president and wanted to know if Biden was implying America was no longer the world's leading power.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden asked her.

The Obama camp then killed a WFTV interview with Biden's wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.

Click here to read more on this story from the Orlando Sentinel.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/
I agree with Biden,

"During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist."

He's gotta be joking or setting him up... thats like stating Australia is a Marxist inspired state... a joke.

That deserves no further contact with that reporter or station.

When are you guys gonna realize anything other than your opinion is not tantamount to communism?!
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Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported .

During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist.

"Are you joking?," Biden asked.

West replied, "No."

Click here to watch the interview.

Later in the interview West questioned Biden about his comments that if Obama wins the election next month, he would be tested early on as president and wanted to know if Biden was implying America was no longer the world's leading power.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden asked her.

The Obama camp then killed a WFTV interview with Biden's wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.

Click here to read more on this story from the Orlando Sentinel.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/


I agree with Biden,

"During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist."

He's gotta be joking or setting him up... thats like stating Australia is a Marxist inspired state... a joke.

That deserves no further contact with that reporter or station.

When are you guys gonna realize anything other than the American way is not tantamount to communism?!
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Seems to me that the more rabid rightwhingers here and in the rightwing press and media are getting desperate .

Heck I've seen claims that Obama is a terrorist, that he's an islamist or at very least he's a muslim, that he's a communist or at very least a nasty socialist (so what - big deal if some of poicies are socialistic in nature) , that he is antiamerican or that unamerican (no proof), that he's too inexperienced (what good is experience if you are an idiot or stuck in your ways ?), that he can't be trusted because he has strange sounding name (I don't recall anyone here being ticked off by the moderators for using disrespectful names or changes to his name .... surprise surprise....), that he's gonna surrender in Iraq (the other guy says he'll keep fighting there for 100 years to win .... idiot !!!) , he's a crook (he's an american politican - goes with the territory and is a time honoured tradition , or is this soul grapes that he was so successful in raising money for his campaign while other guy didn't raise near as much --- boo hoo - tough luck) , that he's a black organisor (when did that become a crime or something bad ?), that he a pals with terrorists ( get a grip on reality people ) , that he didn't dissociate himself quickly enough from some big mouth minister in a black baptist church (BTW .... when were baptists muslims ? and he had no control over what that minister says or said , and don't you protections of freedom of speech and of association in the USA , or does that only to people who tow the line) , I'm sure I missed something .....

I can't believe that supposedly educated and sophisticated adults who regularly post here have bought into this kind of stupid and imbeccilic crap and unsubstantiated and purile dribble - but a look at the prolific posting of the more rabid rightists here shows some of you .... this speaks more about them than it does about Obama , have .

Oh ! BTW .... so what if Bidden has refused to answer what were clearly questions intended to bait him and maybe to accumulate enough out of context sound bites to make him look like he is saying something he isn't saying or didn't actually intend to say.
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^^^ Yeah, you're guy does pall around with Pali-terrorists.
:rotfl: What a load of smelly old rubbish !

You really need to get out more and stop reading ultraright wing blogs.

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Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported .

During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist.

"Are you joking?," Biden asked.

West replied, "No."

Click here to watch the interview.

Later in the interview West questioned Biden about his comments that if Obama wins the election next month, he would be tested early on as president and wanted to know if Biden was implying America was no longer the world's leading power.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden asked her.

The Obama camp then killed a WFTV interview with Biden's wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.

Click here to read more on this story from the Orlando Sentinel.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/


I agree with Biden,

"During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist."

He's gotta be joking or setting him up... thats like stating Australia is a Marxist inspired state... a joke.

That deserves no further contact with that reporter or station.

When are you guys gonna realize anything other than the American way is not tantamount to communism?!
Hey, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen!
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Seems to me that the more rabid rightwhingers here and in the rightwing press and media are getting desperate .

Heck I've seen claims that Obama is a terrorist, that he's an islamist or at very least he's a muslim, that he's a communist or at very least a nasty socialist (so what - big deal if some of poicies are socialistic in nature) , that he is antiamerican or that unamerican (no proof), that he's too inexperienced (what good is experience if you are an idiot or stuck in your ways ?), that he can't be trusted because he has strange sounding name (I don't recall anyone here being ticked off by the moderators for using disrespectful names or changes to his name .... surprise surprise....), that he's gonna surrender in Iraq (the other guy says he'll keep fighting there for 100 years to win .... idiot !!!) , he's a crook (he's an american politican - goes with the territory and is a time honoured tradition , or is this soul grapes that he was so successful in raising money for his campaign while other guy didn't raise near as much --- boo hoo - tough luck) , that he's a black organisor (when did that become a crime or something bad ?), that he a pals with terrorists ( get a grip on reality people ) , that he didn't dissociate himself quickly enough from some big mouth minister in a black baptist church (BTW .... when were baptists muslims ? and he had no control over what that minister says or said , and don't you protections of freedom of speech and of association in the USA , or does that only to people who tow the line) , I'm sure I missed something .....

I can't believe that supposedly educated and sophisticated adults who regularly post here have bought into this kind of stupid and imbeccilic crap and unsubstantiated and purile dribble - but a look at the prolific posting of the more rabid rightists here shows some of you .... this speaks more about them than it does about Obama , have .

Oh ! BTW .... so what if Bidden has refused to answer what were clearly questions intended to bait him and maybe to accumulate enough out of context sound bites to make him look like he is saying something he isn't saying or didn't actually intend to say.
Righhhhht. We're getting so desperate that we look into the private records of a man who dares to question our candidate. We're so desperate that we cut off all access to a television station who dares to ask us a hard question.

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^^^ LOL

If a republican were doing all that Obama was doing, that caterwauling would be deafening.
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Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported .

During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist.

"Are you joking?," Biden asked.

West replied, "No."

Click here to watch the interview.

Later in the interview West questioned Biden about his comments that if Obama wins the election next month, he would be tested early on as president and wanted to know if Biden was implying America was no longer the world's leading power.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden asked her.

The Obama camp then killed a WFTV interview with Biden's wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.

Click here to read more on this story from the Orlando Sentinel.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/


I agree with Biden,

"During a satellite video Thursday, WFTV's Barbara West quoted Karl Marx and asked Biden how Obama's comment to "Joe the Plumber," about spreading the wealth wasn't being Marxist."

He's gotta be joking or setting him up... thats like stating Australia is a Marxist inspired state... a joke.

That deserves no further contact with that reporter or station.

When are you guys gonna realize anything other than the American way is not tantamount to communism?!
Hey, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen!
Funny thing Admiral, you seem to think you run the kitchen... anything goes as long as someone else doesn't upset you
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