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| Joe the Plumber?; Not a plumber. And not even called Joe | |
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| ds9074 | Oct 17 2008, 06:00 AM Post #1 |
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| Wichita | Oct 17 2008, 06:13 AM Post #2 |
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Is this what we can look forward to under an Obama adminsitration? Dare to ask him a question and your entire life story is fair game as if you were a public official. BTW, Joe didn't stop Obama a question on any street. He asked Obama a question when Obama campaign stopped where Joe lives. (In other words, Joe did not seek out Obama.) |
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| ds9074 | Oct 17 2008, 06:31 AM Post #3 |
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^^^ Well the question is who did the "bit of digging" - the Obama camp or the media. |
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| Dwayne | Oct 17 2008, 07:57 AM Post #4 |
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^^^ Both... they coordinate. |
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| Minuet | Oct 17 2008, 08:42 AM Post #5 |
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And of course the fact that MCCAIN mentioned the man 20 times in the debate had nothing to do with the media wanting to know more about the man....... Is this what we can look forward to with a McCain administration?
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| Dwayne | Oct 17 2008, 08:47 AM Post #6 |
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Actually, this whole spectacle over Joe the Plumber demostrates the media biases so well. In fact, it demonstrates the biases even better than the nomination of Sarah Palin. This man, Joe, was minding his own business at his own home. Obama chose to walk down that street on his own volition. Joe didn't invite him to walk down the street. The media has been as less than clear about this. I believe they have done so in an effort to leave ambiguity in people's mind. They want people to not be clear on this point, so many, less observant partisans, will assume Joe sought out Obama, and consequently he must be some kind of republican plant. Then the whole issue of his license and his taxes and his associations... It's all an attempt to destroy this mans' credibility and the media is doing the foot work necessary to cause second-guessing amongst some people. |
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| Dwayne | Oct 17 2008, 08:52 AM Post #7 |
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Not to mention, in just two days after McCain mentions the man's name, there are over 800 stories on this guy on Google News: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=Samuel%20J%20Wurzelbacher&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn |
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| Minuet | Oct 17 2008, 08:57 AM Post #8 |
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And of course that is Obama's fault - not McCain's fault for using the poor innocent guy who Obama happened upon. Maybe if the right-wing bloggers and McCain hadn't used this guy he would be forgotten by now. |
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| Wichita | Oct 17 2008, 09:18 AM Post #9 |
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That's NOT what I said. My point was that there seems to be a trend with the media and Obama. Ask him a question - no matter how benign - and you are accused of being a racist (and worse). While it is ludicrous to suggest that what Palin (for example) has said is equivalent to getting out fire hoses and turning them on black people, she is a public figure. Joe the Plumber is a private citizen and, had the Obama campaign not come to his neighborhood, would have most likely never been heard from by the general public. There is a legal disctinction between how a public and a private person is treated in the media in this country.
McCain said his name 20 times?????????????????? Yeah, that's scary. Minuet, BEFORE THE DEBATE, I had already learned that Joe was not a licensed plumber, that he was not registered to vote and that he had a tax lien. Now, if you are comfortable with people searching for you personal information in such a fashion - because you asked a question in a public venue - then certainly that is your business. I do not. |
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| Dwayne | Oct 17 2008, 09:19 AM Post #10 |
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If the media and Obama want to challenge this man, challenge him on the merits of his question and then the response from Obama... After all, it's not really who Joe the Plumber is that put him in the spotlight, it's the question he asked and the answer he got that brought him attention... Obama and the media don't want you to focus on that, so both throw in these distractions. |
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| Wichita | Oct 17 2008, 09:20 AM Post #11 |
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Given that a left-wing blog posted the man's home address, I somehow doubt that. I do find it interesting that you did not find that Obama and his VP also mentioning the guy's name a number of times objectionable, however, Edited by Wichita, Oct 17 2008, 09:21 AM.
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| Dwayne | Oct 17 2008, 09:21 AM Post #12 |
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Wichita, my comment was not directed at you... it was directed at DS. |
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| Minuet | Oct 17 2008, 09:39 AM Post #13 |
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Wichita, I admitted in another thread that I did not watch the debate. I did read reports and by most accounts McCain mentioned "Joe the plumber" so many times that even the right wingers were getting irritated with him. |
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| Wichita | Oct 17 2008, 09:45 AM Post #14 |
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I wasn't talking about the debate. |
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| Minuet | Oct 17 2008, 10:09 AM Post #15 |
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Ok - could you provide a link to where you did learn the personal information? You are claiming it was dug up by left wingers. Let's see some proof. |
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