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| Tweet Topic Started: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:33 pm (630 Views) | |
| Rothardan | Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:33 pm Post #1 |
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Does Imythess have any demigods/guardians? Mainly I ask because I am sure I saw a part of the board that said something about 'gods and demigods' and whatnot. Can't seem to find it though... maybe it was my imagination... Anyway, does Imythess have Demigods? |
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| Tock | Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:38 pm Post #2 |
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Demigods were an old idea tinkered with quite some time ago. Ultimately it was decided that they just wouldn't work out, probbably even more so after the Rooyalty idea flopped. |
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| Rothardan | Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:26 pm Post #3 |
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That's quite a shame... I think the idea would have worked
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| Aether Draka | Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:48 pm Post #4 |
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It's under debate macanic wise actually. So that is a big "Maybe?" |
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| Rith | Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:26 pm Post #5 |
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Just my opinion, but I think that demigods should be made in the returning form of the god's elite. High preists and Divine Protectors obivously are granted miraculous powers beyond that of mortals even more so merely the god's chosen. The elite would be few and have a very close tie to the god Like Sargoth did to Lomen for any that did any observing of their rps together. The demigods could even get a mini-domain out of the God's domain (Lady Era could have a demigod of Summer, as well as a Demigod of Magma or Smoke, and so on...). Course that's just my humble opinion, probably something already noted in the debate. |
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| Lady Era | Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:12 pm Post #6 |
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Actually, we are hoping for non-elemental ones, but are short on ideas and I haven't had time for research or stuffs and only have one idea at them moment. More ideas would help though. The idea that they would basically have a shrine (similar to a house) has been suggested and agreed with though. If you have more ideas for non-elemental demigod/dess it would help! ![]() ~AD |
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| Rith | Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:26 pm Post #7 |
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Shrines just doesn't seem to good an idea with with the activity that is presently in the temples of the gods. Ahren has yet to get a post in his since the crash (*has been meaning to eventually fix that*). Nightgazer hasn't had one in hers for quite some time and so forth. You also could have non-elemental demi-deities derived from the elemental deities, for example Seele could have a demi-god of shadow specializing in stealth. Chaos and Law are two element that haven't gotten quite nearly enough attention and could be an idea for Demigods or even gods. |
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| Rothardan | Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:05 pm Post #8 |
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Let's start with the domains that the admins have based the 'divine abilities' on as that seems a logical first step. Obviously there's too much to list there so let's whittle it down to those that make sense. Here are some of the domains I believe would be beneficial as demi-gods and to what god the demi-god in question would answer to. War - Chaos Battle - Chaos Justice - Light Nature -Earth Death -Darkness Life -Light Knowledge - Time Secrets - Time Truth - Light Law -Light Luck - Chaos Nature -Earth Weather - Wind Not all of them obviously, but you get the idea right? |
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| Rith | Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:24 pm Post #9 |
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>.> that does make some sense War and battle would go to the deity of blades more so than Chaos. Law wouldn't really be of Light, Tyrants Like Rith a proof of that. And if there was a god of Law, then Justice would fall under law. Knowlege would fall under magic and secrets would fall under Darkness or Magic as Time isn't too great a theme for a god. But anywho it is a rather interesting idea. |
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| Rothardan | Sun Nov 4, 2007 4:34 pm Post #10 |
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There is of course one problem using this method: you'd have way to many demi-gods if you gave one demi-god a position in that domain. My suggestion would be to group the domains under their respective god (battle, war going to Veronna) and then giving the demi-god those certain domains. For example: The Guardian of Justice would also have the domains of Law, Truth, and of course, Justice. Certain demi-gods may also have access to domains other demi-gods have domain over.... for example: Guardian of White Magic (who would be a demi-god that held domain over the lawful side of magic) would also have Truth as their domain, as well as magic, life, knowledge. Obviously I don't know if there will be a guardian of Justice or White Magic, those are just suggestions. But you catch my drift right? |
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| Aether Draka | Sun Nov 4, 2007 5:03 pm Post #11 |
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Shrines would be like houses, not like the temples. It just would be a free house! ![]() As for the idea of using domains with a deity (or perhaps deities) ruling over it is a good idea. The elements that the deities rule over are Water, Air, Fire, Earth, Darkness, Light, Magic, and Blades. They are in the works to be changed, but as we don't know how to deal with the secondary elements it is pending right now. We don’t want demi-gods who are elemental based though. It’s easy enough to have domains under more conceptual ideas like Darkness, Light, Magic, and Blades; but things that are more physical like Water, Air, Earth, and Fire are harder to deal with. Weather is air, Nature is Earth, but Ice is not actually under Water, as ice magic is actually under ‘Aire Spells’. Fire could be light, but there is a God of Light, so Light should fall under him. Magma is liquid fire, but is also considered under Earth. Is lightning weather? If so it’s air, but it could also be fire as its electricity? I agree that something that is Lawful isn’t necessarily Good, as there would be no point of having the alignments the way we do. Chaos and Law may make interesting Demi-Gods though (or perhaps even God/desses), as would an idea like Time. But how would those ideas fit under a Deity already established? They really don’t. The only ones that require an element is the Light (Good) and Darkness (Evil). Weather it’s a Lawful, chaotic, or Natural deity makes no difference. The fact I’m playing my only Lawful Character(s) as the Deity of Fire (and her Avatar) sort of proves that. People always associate Fire with Chaos and Destruction even, but I know there is a healing spell that uses fire. Those are simply things I have noticed with having Era. I’m sure that there are other things often associated with the others, but I have not come against them. SO the question then becomes, how would the deity (demi-god or otherwise) of Law, Chaos, Time, Justace, etc. be applyed for? As in, what would make them what they are? |
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| Master Ace | Sun Nov 4, 2007 5:38 pm Post #12 |
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My point about Shrines is that temples are not used often and might likely be used less for demi-gods. Houses of course are not used as much either. I do think Lehona can tell you that Vernon was the only one to visit her house.....and that turned out being an unpleasent surprise for both of them since she was a goddess at the time, but I digress. I think Using the the god's elite as a base is a good idea because it means that you can limit the amount of demi-gods but still make good use of the great diversity open to the demi-gods. If Demi-god aren't going to be god's elite then I suggest selecting domains that are the furthest removed from all of the curent god domains, such as Art/music, Armor, Luck, Secrets (or we could simply reuse Deception), and possibley law and chaos. But aside from that If we aren't going to have the elite Idea I suggest we use royalty instead. It offers a clear difference for the gods/demigods, but can also still offer much of the smae things. Royalty has the power of resources and would be able accomplish any of the Deity powers that could be handled by money, such as craft artifact (more like find Artifact for them), Craft magic Item, but ultimately that's a very small portion of the diety abilites, however; unlike what was done when we last used royalty, royalty can be offered their own item, pet, and/or spell. This would be more of a show of the Royal resources rather than divine power. Though then again the last time Royalty applications were put up it didn't seem to appeal to too many folks, though it was fairly slow period. |
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| Ornell | Mon Nov 5, 2007 5:32 am Post #13 |
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Gah, I feel like the only active Admin... I'm not am I? Anyways, the reason the Temples aren't being used a lot is because there are not very many Deities on. That is the main problem and one that we are trying to address. I'm worried that Seele may not be able to fulfill the role of God of Darkness, and the same with our now quite absent God of Air who had said he was going to challenge Lady Era. It is the God or Goddess's job to keep their temples running, and the shrines would work the same way. Being an active member is a requirement for the job after all. Warnings and known absences are fine, but random vanishing with no notice or anything? <_< ... sorry, I'm tempted to delete that, but I think I will leave it as it bugs me... Anyways, the Shrines are like the houses and it's not like they have to have it so I don't really see it being a problem. I'm not sure if having them be the Deities Elite when... well, we are short on deities. The applications for God/dess of Magic and Earth (Nature) are up, but no one has added any applications to it. I was hoping more then one person would apply for each... I wasn't here for the royalty, though I have seen the application for it. It would be an interesting idea and may be worth asking about. I think I will see about that. I think the idea with the demi-god/dess' is to have them be sort of free standing but at a lower power level then the full deities. I may be wrong, but that was sort of the idea I got from the other admin. ~AD |
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| ¤Veronna Darkblade[Adm] | Tue Nov 6, 2007 4:34 pm Post #14 |
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I'm sorry AD....I didn't mean to leave Imythess for so long... So anyways, Demigods are a good idea and the suggestions that people are good also, but I believe I will be holding off on them for a little while longer. I plan to finally put the storyline that I have been working on, in to motion, which might open up new opportunities for demigods and other things like it. I don't have much more time to comment on this...Piano lessons are soon... |
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| Ornell | Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:04 pm Post #15 |
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Alright, I'm going to close this topic with that the idea of Demi-Gods or anything related is -pending- until further notice. If anyone would like to give suggestions or ideas, feel free to post them in Suggestions. Keep in mind we don't want them to be following the elements like the Deities do. Thanks! |
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