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Emmons Pissed Off About Being Put On IR
Topic Started: Dec 28 2005, 01:04 PM (84 Views)
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If true, I'd be pissed off, too.

I know they have to open spots on the roster for sign-ups, but, I dunno. Maybe precautionary due to remembering Strahan being out for the season with his torn pec?


Insult added to LB's injury

Emmons: IR a Giant mess

BY RALPH VACCHIANO
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Carlos Emmons fumes over Giants' decision to put him on injured reserve, ending his season.

Carlos Emmons was standing in front of his locker and feeling pretty healthy yesterday when Antonio Pierce hobbled by on crutches with his sprained right ankle still in a cast.
So why was Emmons, the Giants' strong side linebacker, placed on injured reserve while Pierce, their injured middle linebacker, remained on the active roster?

A furious Emmons would like to know the answer to that, too.

"I know I could've been back," Emmons said after Tom Coughlin ended his season by putting him on IR with a torn pectoral muscle. "If it was a one-game season right now, I could play this week. It might have hurt me, but who cares? I don't give a --- about that. I could've been back definitely by next week, but it was a decision they wanted to make, so it's a decision I've got to deal with."

It was a strange decision, especially if Emmons really could have returned for a first-round game on Jan. 7 or 8. It was even stranger because Pierce is definitely unavailable for Saturday's season finale in Oakland, and was on his way to see a doctor to be re-evaluated yesterday afternoon.

Why not wait to hear what the doctor had to say about Pierce? Why rush to put Emmons on IR just so the Giants could sign free-agent linebacker Jay Foreman?

Coughlin said with Pierce and Emmons out, Chase Blackburn (neck) already on IR, and Reggie Torbor (hamstring) hurting, the Giants' need for linebackers "forced us to make some decisions."

Emmons, 32, who has missed five games with his injury, including the last two, insisted Coughlin made the wrong one.

"I voiced my opinion," Emmons said of his morning meeting with his coach. "I told him how I felt about it. But in a situation like that, my opinion really doesn't matter."

The decision itself wasn't the only thing angering Emmons. He was also irked that the Giants were being selectively cautious about his injury. He originally tore the muscle on Oct. 23 and missed the next three games. He returned on Nov. 20 against doctor's advice to help out the injury-depleted linebacking corps.

Nobody had a problem with him risking further injury then, he said.

"I came back three or four weeks early," Emmons said. "The risk is there of tearing it completely (now), but the risk was there when I came back the first time. The risk wasn't such a big deal then, and it's such a big deal now. That's something I don't understand."

What he also didn't understand was why Coughlin didn't tell him until yesterday morning. Emmons first heard about the possibility when he came to Giants Stadium for treatment on Monday, but he wasn't told it was official until after he was placed on IR and Foreman was already signed.

"I mean, if they got a guy in here for meetings already, then they knew (Monday)," Emmons said. "So don't wait for a day and act like it just happened five minutes ago."

Coughlin spoke to the media before Emmons, so he wasn't available for any reaction. Earlier he said doctors told him Emmons would need "a lengthy recovery" after he aggravated the injury in the week before the Giants' win over Kansas City. Oddly, Emmons never appeared on the injury report that week, though Coughlin said the medical staff "was concerned about it" at the time.

Coughlin also said doctors were only "taking guesses" about how long the Giants would be without Pierce. Even Pierce later conceded he has no idea when he'll return.

As for Emmons, his season is over, no matter what happens next.

Originally published on December 28, 2005

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If Emmons is being honest than yes this does seem strange. Either Coughlin is willing to risk a playoff game by being petty and vindictive OR there is more to the story. I'm not discounting the former but the latter does seem more likely.
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For TC to put Emmons on IR, there's got to be more to the story. He isn't so idiotic that he puts them on IR to "punish" them....just benches them. Than again, it could be a matter of TC deciding not to risk further injury that requires surgery & the possibility of losing him forever. Not that we've had him a complete season.

Could also be one more thing to tack on when the decide to cut him. :dunno:
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The article in today's Post had me scratching my head as well.

On the other side I can kind of see the Giants point.

If the guy hurt his pec twice this season what is there to make you think the 1st time he has a collision (major or otherwise) he's not going to reinjure himslf a 3rd time?

Perhaps the Giants weighed the pros and cons and figured we'd be better off signing the guys we got and giving them 2 weeks of practice before the playoffs start rather than gamble Emmons can stay healthy.

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Gene
Dec 28 2005, 05:00 PM
The article in today's Post had me scratching my head as well.

On the other side I can kind of see the Giants point.

If the guy hurt his pec twice this season what is there to make you think the 1st time he has a collision (major or otherwise) he's not going to reinjure himslf a 3rd time?

Perhaps the Giants weighed the pros and cons and figured we'd be better off signing the guys we got and giving them 2 weeks of practice before the playoffs start rather than gamble Emmons can stay healthy.

That's pretty much my take. Depending upon Emmons' ailment de jour, he's an injury waiting to happen. Add to it the fact that he has an injury... that could put him down for a long time with one hit, it's not worth risking it again (they did it once, they don't want to chance it again). It's not worth rolling the dice with him because he's so prone to injury, this one or any other one. Get a guy in here who will learn the position and hopefully be up to speed in Chicago for the playoffs.

Emmons has given us nothing but average play at best, when healthy. An injured Emmons gives us less. I can't imagine the drop off to anybody would be dramatic at this point.
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I'm really hoping we never sign another ex Eagle :(
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I read on BBI that the trainers and doctors are the ones who make this type of decision and the coaches just rubber stamp the decision. I don't know if it's true or not, but it does make the most sense. Coaches and players aren't doctors so I'd bet many more times than not, they defer to what the medical staff tells them to do.
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From today's Staten Island Advance.......


One day after linebacker Carlos Emmons was placed on injured reserve, Coach Tom Coughlin disputed the 10 year veteran's statement that he could have been ready to play in the playoffs despite a strained pectoral muscle.

"According to the medical people that was not the case" said Coughlin. "He was at high risk and was at risk of reinjuring".

"Carlos has been an outstanding player here and outstanding citizen". "He's a guy that has had an awful lot invested in this season". "He was very disappointed as was I and anybody in this organization".

Emmons relapse earlier this month after playing three games with the injury was a big reason he was placed on IR.


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Dec 28 2005, 05:24 PM
Gene
Dec 28 2005, 05:00 PM
The article in today's Post had me scratching my head as well.
 
On the other side I can kind of see the Giants point.

If the guy hurt his pec twice this season what is there to make you think the 1st time he has a collision (major or otherwise) he's not going to reinjure himslf a 3rd time?

Perhaps the Giants weighed the pros and cons and figured we'd be better off signing the guys we got and giving them 2 weeks of practice before the playoffs start rather than gamble Emmons can stay healthy.

That's pretty much my take. Depending upon Emmons' ailment de jour, he's an injury waiting to happen. Add to it the fact that he has an injury... that could put him down for a long time with one hit, it's not worth risking it again (they did it once, they don't want to chance it again). It's not worth rolling the dice with him because he's so prone to injury, this one or any other one. Get a guy in here who will learn the position and hopefully be up to speed in Chicago for the playoffs.

Emmons has given us nothing but average play at best, when healthy. An injured Emmons gives us less. I can't imagine the drop off to anybody would be dramatic at this point.

Sounds about right!
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Dec 29 2005, 09:15 PM
"Carlos has been an outstanding player here and outstanding citizen". "He's a guy that has had an awful lot invested in this season". "He was very disappointed as was I and anybody in this organization".

Yeah, cause this is probably the end of the line for him. He had a lot to prove this season & didn't really do so, so we may not be seeing him in Giants blue next season. :dunno:
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