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Offensive Coordinators
Topic Started: Jan 18 2009, 01:50 PM (216 Views)
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Let me tell you something, pendejo.
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How many times this season were we in something like a 3rd and 17 in opposing territory and we got a freakin' DRAW?!

The only things a draw does in that situation:

1. Gains 3 yards
2. Gets me drinking harder
3. Forces me to once again scratch my head and ask the eternal question, "Why?"


And me. And Pwned. And Cher. And Kate....

Him and his fucking 3/17 draws! They must have tried two passes in a row, or sumthin'!

Fidiot!
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Jan 20 2009, 08:51 PM
27Hampton
Jan 19 2009, 12:42 PM

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I dunno, man. I think with Gilbride, it's warranted most of the time. He might call one really great, balanced game that works like a mofo all day long. The following week, even against a much inferior opponent, he'd call an absolute shit game that makes no sense at all

The 2nd Skins game from last season is a perfect example. 30-40mph winds and he calls 53 pass plays :whoa:

The one constant is his love of abandoning the run, especially when it's working. We could be up by 30 pts in the 4th and he'd still throw the fucking ball.

You definitely have a point about the blame game after a loss. It's just that MANY times, Killdrive has literally cost us games with his unexplainable thought process. Yeah, sometimes it isn't executed by the players, but a lot of it shouldn't have been called in the first place, y'know? How many times this season were we in something like a 3rd and 17 in opposing territory and we got a freakin' DRAW?!

The only things a draw does in that situation:

1. Gains 3 yards
2. Gets me drinking harder
3. Forces me to once again scratch my head and ask the eternal question, "Why?"
Every offensive coordinator in the history of history have run draw plays on 3rd and long. This is nothing new. It has happened for 20 years and will continue to happen. I hate it...but you can't argue that they ALL...EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM do it. There aren't very many plays for 3rd & 17, you hear it all the time.

But like I've said, I certainly don't agree with all the calls. No doubt about it, not even close. It's just that all the complaints are ludicrous to me when we've had the best offense in my lifetime. Yet the OC still doesn't catch a break, unless we're on a winning streak.

Sure we have talent, but there isn't one superstar on this offense. Not one. That says something to me. Gilbride kinda has an idea about what he's doing. Kinda, ya know?

Well....you know my angle by now. I'll stop
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My favorite is the same as Hampy's..... 3rd & 7 & run a 3-yard screen! :gah: :pull:
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Every offensive coordinator in the history of history have run draw plays on 3rd and long. This is nothing new. It has happened for 20 years and will continue to happen. I hate it...but you can't argue that they ALL...EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM do it. There aren't very many plays for 3rd & 17, you hear it all the time.


Yeah, I know there aren't many plays for 3rd and 17, but if I had to guess, I'd say the ones that did exist were of the passing variety LOL I'm not disagreeing with you at all, Hamp. I just can't understand why he does what he does when the situation calls for something specific. When I think 3rd and long, I immediately think pass. It's the obvious call, and of course the defense is expecting it. However, just because they are expecting it doesn't mean it shouldn't be done anyway, right? Our offense is on the predictable side anyway, and as long as we're in opposing territory, they might as well air the son of a bitch out(provided they aren't playing in a 30mph wind tunnel, which makes Killdrive throw the ball more often regardless) If the defense goes into pass formation, fuck 'em. They'll have to defend the pass. Let them KNOW we're gonna pass. We hardly ever do what isn't expected, and thats what I hate about him.

You're right in that they don't have any superstars. Plax was as close as we've gotten to having one, and he wasn't always used correctly either. Hell, Shockey wasn't used correctly most of the time. Maybe it's him, and maybe it's not. It seriously could be Eli not being comfortable with certain plays. We'll probably never know the truth, but from where I sit, I see it as KG's failure.
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Air it out to who? Steve Smith? Hixon? Toomer? They were barely able to get off the line half the time. The other half of the time, a guy like Hixon was dropping the ball.

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KG's failure. LOL Was last year KG's success? Did he become a completely different OC this year? Or did we lose our WR toward the end of the year and find out that the rest of the crew is average at best? Lose our two best DE's to start the year, a QB who completely shit the bed in the playoff game, the lack of a pass rush and stop on 3rd & 20, etc. Or was it the offensive play calling? A case can be made for all of the above, but oye vei. :lol: If it wasn't for Gilbride's zone blocking scheme, there might not be a Super Bowl nor an 11-1 start the following season to even discuss, not to mention the failures mentioned above.

We are in complete agreement with the 3rd & 17 scenario. I'm just saying that guys throughout the league who get paid a lot of money and are supposed to know a heck of a lot more than us run that play. I would imagine the reason is that sometimes the best offensive play is a punt. In that situation, the probability of converting a 3rd & 17, when the defensive players get paid too...is very, very remote. The probability of a turnover is much higher than a conversion (I would gather). So very often the OC's in the NFL concede that series to a punt, depending upon a number of factors - time of the game, field position, other surrounding factors such as the opposing defense, what kind of game is expected throughout, the flow of the game at that current time and so on. Very often it's probably the right call, even if we all want to throw something through the TV at the time.

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27Hampton
Jan 21 2009, 07:17 PM
KG's failure. LOL Was last year KG's success? Did he become a completely different OC this year? Or did we lose our WR toward the end of the year and find out that the rest of the crew is average at best? Lose our two best DE's to start the year, a QB who completely shit the bed in the playoff game, the lack of a pass rush and stop on 3rd & 20, etc. Or was it the offensive play calling? A case can be made for all of the above, but oye vei. :lol: If it wasn't for Gilbride's zone blocking scheme, there might not be a Super Bowl nor an 11-1 start the following season to even discuss, not to mention the failures mentioned above.

We are in complete agreement with the 3rd & 17 scenario. I'm just saying that guys throughout the league who get paid a lot of money and are supposed to know a heck of a lot more than us run that play. I would imagine the reason is that sometimes the best offensive play is a punt. In that situation, the probability of converting a 3rd & 17, when the defensive players get paid too...is very, very remote. The probability of a turnover is much higher than a conversion (I would gather). So very often the OC's in the NFL concede that series to a punt, depending upon a number of factors - time of the game, field position, other surrounding factors such as the opposing defense, what kind of game is expected throughout, the flow of the game at that current time and so on. Very often it's probably the right call, even if we all want to throw something through the TV at the time.

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