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Most frustrating half of football in my life
Topic Started: Jan 11 2009, 02:41 PM (1,215 Views)
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LOL.........I'm not surprised at the people blaming Eli but in truth when the others teams Headcoach out coachs you on the coin toss ya can't blame the QB and I believe our cocoordinators were to busy with their interveiws to sit down and come up with a proper game plain.
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Our coordinators were busy running the ball with 7min left and down two scores because they didn't have the confidence in their QB to complete passes and save the season. You could say that's the fault of the coordinators...that's fine, I admit you could build an argument there. However, this coaching staff has been in this league a long time...and if they didn't have confidence in a QB throwing the ball in that situation, that should tell you a lot.

Of course I'm sure it just tells you that you're right and the coordinator is wrong, but if you let it sink in a little, you might see my thought process.


Coaches are geniuses when players play well.

Edited by 27Hampton, Jan 11 2009, 07:28 PM.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:18 PM
I believe our cocoordinators were to busy with their interveiws to sit down and come up with a proper game plain.
I didn't think that was a big deal,maybe it was.
But in reality,especially with Gilbride,its not like he hasn't had a habbit of being so inept with his playcalling.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:25 PM
Our coordinators were busy running the ball with 7min left and down two scores because they didn't have the confidence in their QB


Coaches are geniuses when players play well.


maybe the "headcoach should have figured out which way the wind was going so in the 4th his QB would have a chance





No confidence in the QB that took them to 12 -4 this year and the #1 seed or got the MVP in the SB last year,ohhh yeah great thought process.
Edited by G1.., Jan 11 2009, 07:32 PM.
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Killdrive has been fucking us up for years now. Sometimes he's good, sometimes he's flat out horrible

I cant even put a label on what happened today, but I do know this: The blame can't be put on one specific person or area. It was a combination of ALL of them not doing what they had to do to win the game.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:31 PM
27Hampton
Jan 11 2009, 07:25 PM
Our coordinators were busy running the ball with 7min left and down two scores because they didn't have the confidence in their QB


Coaches are geniuses when players play well.


maybe the "headcoach should have figured out which way the wind was going so in the 4th his QB would have a chance





No confidence in the QB that took them to 12 -4 this year and the #1 seed or got the MVP in the SB last year,ohhh yeah great thought process.
Ok genius, then you tell me the reason we were running the ball play after play, down by two scores and 7 min left.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:31 PM
Killdrive has been fucking us up for years now. Sometimes he's good, sometimes he's flat out horrible
lol that's perfect. I guess I'm the only one who sees that the "sometimes" when Gilbride is good is when the players play well. Unreal. Every single week I agree with some of the play calls and disagree with others. The difference overall opinion is when the plays are or are not executed. I'm really surprised that I'm the only one who sees that.

Anyway....it is what it is. On to the draft.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:31 PM
Killdrive has been fucking us up for years now. Sometimes he's good, sometimes he's flat out horrible

He's good when we don't have to make adjustments.
Simple adjustment
Instead of giving a pre determined amount of carries to Jacobs/Ward,ect,how bout feeding Jacobs the whole game if he was the hot back,which he was.
Simple adjustment
Eli is struggling,you are in the red zone 1st and 5,Eagles can't stop Jacobs,3 straight passes out of the shot gun

I can go on forever
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Jan 11 2009, 07:34 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 07:31 PM

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Ok genius, then you tell me the reason we were running the ball play after play, down by two scores and 7 min left.


#1)Gillbride was a moron

#2) Couglin put Eli into a headwind that "both" QB's hard a hard time with.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:37 PM
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Jan 11 2009, 07:31 PM
Killdrive has been fucking us up for years now. Sometimes he's good, sometimes he's flat out horrible

He's good when we don't have to make adjustments.
Simple adjustment
Instead of giving a pre determined amount of carries to Jacobs/Ward,ect,how bout feeding Jacobs the whole game if he was the hot back,which he was.
Simple adjustment
Eli is struggling,you are in the red zone 1st and 5,Eagles can't stop Jacobs,3 straight passes out of the shot gun

I can go on forever
I agree with the pre-determined game plan and at times, the inability to stray from that. It drives me crazy at times. But again, I find it hard to believe that God could have called a game where this quarterback would have been successful.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:38 PM
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I agree with the pre-determined game plan and at times, the inability to stray from that. It drives me crazy at times. But again, I find it hard to believe that God could have called a game where this quarterback would have been successful.
Yes you could have.
If we stuck to the running game with Jacobs I really think we get at least 1 TD and closer for one of the 2 missed fgs,
Giants would have had a lead and been able to pound it the entire game.
Its cause and effect
In this game Eli should not have thrown more than 20 times
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Jan 11 2009, 07:37 PM
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#1)Gillbride was a moron

#2) Couglin put Eli into a headwind that "both" QB's hard a hard time with.
I agree that it seems Coughlin's choice at the beginning of the game was a poor one, but fact is Eli showed that he couldn't throw the ball WITH the wind or against it, and the other fact is that the wind died down in the second half which makes that decision relatively unimportant in the end.

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Saw this on another board
Carl Banks said the Giants (but he really meant Killdrive) play calling was like his kids playing with their crayons at the table - the kids keeping saying, "oh, I want to use this color and I want to use that color," when the yellow, blue and red crayons worked well.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:42 PM
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Yes you could have.
If we stuck to the running game with Jacobs I really think we get at least 1 TD and closer for one of the 2 missed fgs,
Giants would have had a lead and been able to pound it the entire game.
Its cause and effect
In this game Eli should not have thrown more than 20 times
"If we stuck to the running game with Jacobs I really think we get at least 1 TD and closer for one of the 2 missed fgs,"

I do agree that we should have run the ball more in the first half but fact remains, if the quarterback could have completed a few of those passes that we disagreed with (as a play call), you wouldn't even have that to argue. McNabb didn't have a career game, but he FAR more effective in the passing game. FAR more.

He's a professional quarterback in a playoff game. I'm sorry, you need to complete a few passes here and there.
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Jan 11 2009, 07:45 PM
Saw this on another board
Carl Banks said the Giants (but he really meant Killdrive) play calling was like his kids playing with their crayons at the table - the kids keeping saying, "oh, I want to use this color and I want to use that color," when the yellow, blue and red crayons worked well.
And Bob Papa said that there's no excuse for Eli's poor play since the wind died down substantially in the second half and there were receivers open.

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