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| 27Hampton | Nov 25 2008, 12:39 PM Post #1 |
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| 27Hampton | Nov 25 2008, 12:40 PM Post #2 |
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| 27Hampton | Nov 25 2008, 12:50 PM Post #3 |
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Gary Myers Daily News The Super Bowl is only 68 days away and the Giants and Jets are the two best teams in the NFL. Giants first. Jets second. Each week they move closer to the ultimate New York football fantasy: Big Blue vs. Gang Green in the Super Bowl in Tampa. And so the debate rages — who is better, the upstart Jets or the red-hot Giants? BIG APPLE FOOTBALL: WEEK 12 Here's how they match up if they were to square off in the dreamiest of Super Bowl dreams: QUARTERBACK This is a close one but I trust Eli Manning more in a big spot not to make a big mistake. He outplayed Brett Favre in the NFC title game in January in what used to be Favre weather in Green Bay. He would do it again in the warm weather. Manning just went through a stretch of six straight games under 200 yards passing. But that's because the Giants were running it so well. He more than kept up with Kurt Warner's video game offense in Arizona on Sunday: 240 yards, three TDs, no picks. Favre was outstanding in New England and Tennessee and has bought into Eric Mangini's low-risk approach, which worked so well for him with the Packers last year. He has made a commitment to getting the ball in the hands of his playmakers and letting them run with it rather than going deep. The Giants are first in the league in scoring and the Jets are second, each just under 30 points per game. EDGE: Giants RUNNING BACKS Earth, Wind and Fire give the Giants the best running game in the league. Brandon Jacobs smashes defenses, Derrick Ward runs through them and Ahmad Bradshaw runs around them. If Bradshaw got the same number of touches as Leon Washington, he might put up the same numbers. Thomas Jones leads the AFC with 950 yards and is averaging 4.4 yards per carry, up almost a full yard from last year. The new offensive line should be getting some nice holiday gifts. Washington can score from anywhere on the field. He has seven TDs: a kickoff return (94 yards), four rushing and two receiving. EDGE: Giants RECEIVERS Plaxico Burress has been invisible since he disappeared on the Giants for a day on the Monday after the third game. Now he's hurt. The Giants are very deep with Amani Toomer, Steve Smith and Domenik Hixon. Tight end Kevin Boss is making plays after a slow start. For the Jets, Jerricho Cotchery developed instant chemistry with Favre. Laveranues Coles was hurt when Favre first arrived and he was sulking over Chad Pennington. But Coles has been won over. Coles and Cotchery have thrived catching Favre's fastballs, even though it bruises their arms. Favre is helping to make rookie tight end Dustin Keller a star. EDGE: Jets OFFENSIVE LINE The Giants have the best in football. They've had the same five players in the same five spots for two years and it shows. Chris Snee and Shaun O'Hara deserve Pro Bowl spots. They are more versatile and mobile than the Jets' line. The Jets paid a lot and are getting a lot. Alan Faneca did an excellent job keeping Albert Haynesworth away from Favre. Damien Woody has been solid at right tackle. This group has really come together lately to become a major strength. EDGE: Giants DEFENSIVE LINE Michael Strahan retired and Osi Umenyiora was lost for the year in the preseason and this is still the NFL's best D-line. Justin Tuck was the Giants' top lineman last year but was overshadowed by Strahan and Osi Umenyiora. He has also become a team leader. Kris Jenkins took no time to adapt to playing the middle in the Jets' 3-4 and could be the defensive player of the year. It has become very tough to run on the Jets. They are giving up 3.4 yards per carry. Last year it was 4.2. They are No. 3 in rushing defense; last year No. 29. EDGE: Giants LINEBACKERS Antonio Pierce is not Harry Carson in the middle of the Giants defense, but he runs the show and makes sure everybody is lined up. Calvin Pace (five sacks) and Bryan Thomas (four) have become productive outside bookends for the Jets. Eric Barton and David Bowens are helped inside by Jenkins taking up three blockers. EDGE: Jets SECONDARY Corey Webster went from not dressing for a couple of games last year to intercepting Favre in OT to set up the championship victory to becoming a shutdown corner. Aaron Ross is starting to make some plays. And it looks like Kenny Phillips is going to be an impact player. The Jets have the two best DBs in New York. Darrelle Revis is a shutdown and FS Kerry Rhodes is a playmaker. But the Jets are weak at the other two spots and gave up 400 yards passing to Matt Cassel two weeks ago and 373 in the second half to Kurt Warner. You can still throw on the Jets. EDGE: Giants SPECIAL TEAMS Both incumbent kickers got hurt and can't get their jobs back. Tom Coughlin is going with his kicker of the week between John Carney and Lawrence Tynes while Jay Feely has given Eric Mangini no reason to put Mike Nugent back on the field. Jeff Feagles is the best directional punter in the league. Reggie Hodges has done well since replacing Ben Graham. Here's what gives the edge: No special teams coach is more creative than Mike Westhoff. And Leon Washington is dynamic returning punts and kickoffs. EDGE: Jets COACHES Tom Coughlin went from nearly being fired to winning the Super Bowl. And he could win it again. He transformed himself into a players' coach last year and the players bought it. Eric Mangini has done a terrific job convincing Favre he didn't have to win games by himself. Mangini took a big risk bringing in a player way bigger than the team and it's worked because Favre just wants to win. EDGE: Giants Super Bowl Score: Giants 27, Jets 23 |
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| cyberstorm | Nov 25 2008, 03:12 PM Post #4 |
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meh WHYYYYYYYYY? |
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| G1.. | Nov 25 2008, 03:55 PM Post #5 |
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Good question,if your team is 10 an 1 in a 16 game season if you can't get excited about that then you should stop being a football fan.With things like they are in general it's kinda nice to be able to have faith in something and for some of the older Giant fans it's be a ling,long time since we've been able to feel this good and confident about our team,thing is even if they lose agame or two I'll feel the same.You can't help but think what if this or that,what if we play the Colts or the Pats again and yes what if we play the ........Jets,enjoy it Cyber we all should,if you can't well something is wrong with you. |
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| cyberstorm | Nov 25 2008, 04:55 PM Post #6 |
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Oh,I'm stoked as hell,this to me looks and feels like 1986 to me(just praying we aren'r peaking too soon),the mere fact that we are such a dominant running team playing in the Northeast in the winter probably getting the #1 seed,love it. But the fact that they are already making simulated SB games with the Jets before Thanksgiving is what irritates me,. IMO a bunch of IT nerds with way too much time on their hands |
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| BlueSunday | Nov 25 2008, 04:59 PM Post #7 |
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The Jests are mentioned in the context of "best in the NFL"?! What the fuck is this world coming to? Myers is now an official crack head
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| G1.. | Nov 25 2008, 09:15 PM Post #8 |
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LOL... this is what I mean ,come on Blue enjoy it ,I'm even happy for Jet fans right now!
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| BlueSunday | Nov 26 2008, 04:38 AM Post #9 |
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Its not so much the Jests as it is Favre. All the drama and bullshit he caused this off season has caused me to pray for his career to go down in flames in NY so that he wished he stayed retired Don't get me wrong though. Fuck the Jests too. Can't root for 'em
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| Rick5 | Nov 26 2008, 07:18 AM Post #10 |
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I'm not getting excited about anything until we beat Dallas in the playoffs. We all know that game is going to happen. |
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| G1.. | Nov 26 2008, 07:22 AM Post #11 |
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It just makes me think maybe Brett is the GREAT ONE others always said he was.I've dislike the Jets as long as anyone but even this is kinda fun to watch. |
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| cyberstorm | Nov 26 2008, 11:40 AM Post #12 |
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If we beat them is September and they lose one more time it won't,they are screwed with a lot of the tie brekers |
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